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What is the difference between a dragon and a Chinese dragon?
I can't seem to google it right to get a definition...
Valerie Jo
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Date: 4/10/13 9:06 AM

Obviously I am not a dragon expert. I want to make some wall hangings for someone and have dragon embroidery files. They are beautiful but are not called Chinese dragons. I want this to be a surprise so I can't ask this person.

Please let me know the difference. I thought it had to do with the claws? Thanks so much!

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Date: 4/10/13 10:07 AM

I think it's the head and they have no wings. Different from what I think of as an "English" dragron or storybook type.
Here are some Chinese dragon pictures

Chinese Dragons
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Date: 4/10/13 10:13 AM

Wikipedia shows some illustrations of various cultures' dragons.

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Date: 4/10/13 10:17 AM

From Wikipedia,

Chinese Dragons
Historically, the dragon was the symbol of the Emperor of China. In the Zhou Dynasty, the 5-clawed dragon was assigned to the Son of Heaven, the 4-clawed dragon to the nobles (zhuhou, seigneur), and the 3-clawed dragon to the ministers (daifu). In the Qin Dynasty, the 5-clawed dragon was assigned to represent the Emperor while the 4-clawed and 3-clawed dragons were assigned to the commoners. The dragon in the Qing Dynasty appeared on national flags.[1]

European Dragons
A dragon is a mythological representation of a reptile. In antiquity, dragons were mostly envisaged as serpents, but since the Middle Ages, it has become common to depict them with legs, resembling a lizard.

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Date: 4/10/13 10:23 AM

The links posted are very helpful in distilling my picture of a Chinese dragon and the European look. Nice to see more examples from other cultures.

My inner picture of a Chinese dragon- the body is slim and undulates in sinuous S curves, or forms spirals. The tail is an uninterrupted continuation of the extended body shape. By contrast the head, especially at the mouth is squared off and boxy, the eye often bulge.

The European one has a more stocky, muscular body and smaller head, almost like a dinosaur.

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Date: 4/10/13 12:44 PM

So, these aren't it?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/sewingwarehouse/ssw-agd-mystical-dragons-rear.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sewingsupplywarehouse.com/mysticaldragon.html&h=903&w=727&sz=239&tbnid=-97wcI8X0pJXKM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=72&zoom=1&usg=__1apI1IQowPzhn5_xVJKW11blqiI=&docid=3DRmbgeViGE0rM&itg=1&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WZZlUeyAPKTW2gWxtYDIAQ&ved=0CFMQ9QEwBg&dur=1321

http://compare.ebay.com/like/390564028027?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

I hope these links work...

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Date: 4/10/13 12:51 PM

Those are European dragons, Val.

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Date: 4/10/13 4:11 PM

I'm glad I asked. Well, back to square one. I will look online for Chinese dragon embroidery files to purchase. Thanks!

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Date: 4/10/13 4:59 PM

Embroidery Library has some.Chinese dragons

Embroidery Online has quite a few dragons. If you search "Chinese dragons" on the site, only a few will show up, but if you look through all the dragon designs there, you will find more. HTH

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Date: 4/10/13 5:56 PM

What you may have in mind and what the intended recepient has in mind may be two different things.

Tell them you are making a wall hanging for a customer, relative, friend, bakery shop owner....anyone he or she would not know and would like their input.

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