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Trying to create J'Aton inspired gown
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Date: 4/10/13 4:32 PM

I'm looking at embroidery machines (specifically, Bernina and Viking) for the purpose of being able to make evening gowns with intricate custom embroidery like this:

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Could a home-use embroidery machine create this look? If so, which model would you recommend? And can the machines do embroidering on netting?

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Date: 4/10/13 4:35 PM

Yes it could but not for beginners.

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Date: 4/10/13 4:55 PM

Thanks quiltingwolf! Could a beginner eventually learn if there was good dealer support? Do you have a recommendation for a machine/brand? I've briefly looked at the Viking Designer Diamond and at the Bernina 830 TOL machine. But I have no frame of reference between the two brands and plan to bring some fabric and test. Which features should I look for to be able to do embroidery like this?

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Date: 4/10/13 5:14 PM

The embroidery, yes. The beading, no. I assume you'd like to make dresses as a business? If so, only a commercial machine would give you the speed, accuracy, and warranty to make these possible.

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Date: 4/10/13 5:41 PM

Yes, I'm doing gowns as a home business. I currently already do bead embroidery by hand, I'm just needing the embroidery part. I only do custom gowns one at a time, so I'm not looking to mass-produce. Do I still need an embroidery machine? If so, where would I go about getting one of those?

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Date: 4/10/13 5:42 PM

Also, I don't necessarily need it to be super fast, as I'm ok with taking my time for a gown.

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Date: 4/10/13 5:50 PM

Dealer support for what you wish to do is non-existent. They may offer to sell software to digitize artwork, but not as intricate as what you want to do.

I did state "sell" and that is about all you will find at a dealer.

Classes, or even the instructions for the software will show you how to digitize simple clip-art but not designs with the detail you will want.

Professional software and classes taught by experts in the field of digitizing are super expensive and time consuming.

And, I would go with Brother and neither of the two you have mentioned.

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Date: 4/10/13 6:06 PM

Thank you PattyAnnJ - which Brother model do you recommend? It sounds like you are pretty experienced with embroidery.

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Date: 4/10/13 7:49 PM

Boy that is a loaded question! Yes you probably could get a home embroidery machine to produce results like above but only after much practice. If I were you the first thing I'd do is Google embroidery machines and familiarize yourself with them and what options each brand and model has to offer and then I would go to every machine dealer in your area and just start test driving the embroidery machines. You are also going to want to familiarize yourself with embroidery software (which can cost thousands) which you will need to manipulate purchased designs and/or create your own designs. You are probably going to want a machine with a large hoop. Also you should pick the brand of machine that you are most comfortable using and has the options YOU want, the Pfaff Creative Sensation is a very popular high end machine but I am very happy with my mid range babylock Ellageo, it's all about what you want and need as well as what you're willing to spend.

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Date: 4/10/13 8:11 PM

A couple of things to consider when embroidering lace designs...they have a lot of stitches especially those created to be free standing lace. Free standing lace is basically embroidery done on water soluable stabilizer with top and bobbin thread, when the design is complete the stabilizer is rinsed away. Look at emblibrary as they have a large variety of these designs. Most machines stitch out lace best at apr 600 stitches per minute and larger 5x7 designs can be 50000 plus per design. The quality of the machine will determine how much thread breakage there is on small intricate designs. Not all machines will embroider at the top speed, slower again will add time. If you are making the gowns as they are being embroidered you need the space between the needle/right of machine, bigger hoop will allow fewer hoopings increasing the accuracy of design placement. A lot that goes into doing lace is the digitising...creating a "recipe" so the machine knows what type of stitch, lenght, density, width and dirrection is needed to create a design. Than many many hours of testing designs is needed or purchase designs already created. Best lessons in digitizing is by Stitchitize, they sell DVD's and he uses Janome software. He's done workshops at Janome institute and the Creative needle work shows.

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