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Bobbin winding w/ Singer Touch N Sew 778
Singer 778 maintenance issues
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Date: 4/11/13 7:57 PM

I found a nice little T&S 778 at St V's the other day. The catch is that I don't know how to make the bobbin winder work. The machine I learned on had either a lever or button on the right (gramma had a different machine). This one has the "bull's eye" lever near the bobbin and I don't know if it's jammed or I'm doing it wrong. I remember breaking this lever on a different machine when I was a kid and don't want to repeat the process.

Also, anyone know which screws I need to remove to get the bottom cover off? I undid all but the screws on the rubber feet and it seems like something's still holding the base in place.

Thanks!
-- Edited on 4/11/13 7:57 PM --
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Date: 4/11/13 8:10 PM

Underneath that bull's eye button and when you move that, is a sort of triangular white plastic cam piece attached to it, but if it breaks or cracks, or falls apart, then it cannot have any force or push going on, to even make the gears under the machine, work in the way they have to, to wind a bobbin. Possibly that is why not winding a bobbin, even if the machine still sews just fine, and you are really doing everything else just right. To find out, you really do just have to look at it. To get the bottom off the machine, you do have to take out the screws holding on the rubber feet. And then you need to take out the screws holding on the bottom of the race cover compartment to expose that too. Good Luck, maybe it just needs oil if you are lucky instead. I don't think things break by just moving them, I think they just get old and fall apart instead, so I think was not probably your fault if it even happened back when you were a little kid on some other machine sort of like it even. But the like machine you got, would be even older now, than when you were a kid too, so that might not always fare well for that little plastic cam part underneath there.
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Date: 4/11/13 9:13 PM

This site has good information on the Touch N Sew, including bobbin winding with diagrams. You might be able to tell, from looking at the schematics, what additional screws you need to remove to get the bottom cover off.

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Date: 4/12/13 0:02 AM

It's been a very long time since I owned a TNS. I believe those screws in the "feet" have to be either removed or loosened before you will be able to slide off the bottom of the machine.

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Date: 4/12/13 9:14 AM

After recently having this machine, Goldie, and sending her off to a new home, I'm pretty familiar with it.

As to the bobbin winder, I strongly suggest you remove the stitch plate and clean out any goobers in there. Chances are, the machine has not been cleaned in quite a while, and that's what is keeping the lever from moving.

Also, raise the needle to the highest position and take out the bobbin race (little round metal thingy with a hook on it). Clean underneath where it came out, and put it back in.

As to the lever with the bullseye, move it slowly towards you until it sticks in place. You might have to hold it in place to keep it there; that's okay--I had to do this with Goldie. Don't close the bobbin door/slider, but leave it open while you are winding the bobbin. Closing the door will turn it off.

The bottom cover needs to have the rubber feet screws removed as well. I'd suggest you clean everything, including the bottom cover area, before you wind the bobbin.

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Date: 4/12/13 9:19 AM

I had this very same issue with my T&S 778 I just pulled out to clean up and to test FMQ on it. But I couldn't wind a bobbin. She has some other issues as well. So I retired her. She's served me well from 1976-1997. I have other machines that I actually use that need maintence, that's why I retired her. Will never sell her as my sis brought her for me in high school. Hope you can get yours working. I don't care what they say about plastic gears. That machine was a dream. When I first got her I thought I was the luckiest person in the world I really loved that machine.

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Date: 4/13/13 9:59 PM

Thanks so much - I don't quite have the bobbin winding working yet, but I have at least gotten bottom opened up to see that everything is still attached. The machine looks like it wasn't used much after its last service even though the outside was filthy.

Hopefully I'll get this girl to cooperate. My daughter's fascinated by by my over-priced viking (I drove a car that cost less), but I really want to have her learn on a mechanical machine when she's ready.

Heather
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Date: 4/14/13 0:44 AM

Squeeee!!!! It's fixed! The mechanism was jammed. The piece that was supposed to be pushed up when the bullseye piece is turned to the left was stuck in the "sew" position. A few taps with a screwdriver handle got it into the "wind" position (and slightly stuck there and had to be popped back down with the screwdriver) but pumping the mechanism and a little machine oil onto the rod has her as good as new!

Now I'm off to replace her rubber feed dogs.

Thanks for the help!

Heather
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Date: 4/14/13 10:43 AM

As my TNS got older the "bulls eye" lever would not release when the needle plate was pushed back into place and I had to do this manually.

"We" just need more assistance as "we" age.

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Date: 5/28/15 12:49 PM

Ok I have been an inactive member for a while but I picked up a Touch and Sew with this same problem. It sews ok but I have had occasions where the bobbin doesn't want to stay seated in the shuttle. I've had it serviced numerous times and the guy insists it's something I'm doing (well, my daughter has been sewing more than me). So it is clean in there. He thinks we're sewing too many layers or using an old bobbin that is roughened on top, or something. Too many layers may be the case SOMETIMES with my daughter because she thinks it's an industrial strength machine but not always. And it doesn't explain why with a brand new bobbin it won't stay seated while trying to wind. I do have the bullseye switch in the proper position but the bobbin keeps wanting to jump out of the shuttle, so I have to actually put my finger on top of the metal retainer clip on top of the bobbin to keep it down. Then it winds fine.
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