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Date: 4/23/13 3:41 AM

Sophie just got spayed Friday. The vet put the hard plastic e-collar on her and it drove her nuts so I bought a No Bite Collar. She can still bend to lick down there and has even figured how to get it off. I'm so afraid she will start messing with the sutures! Any advise or recommendations?

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Date: 4/23/13 7:31 AM

When our dog was spayed she wouldn't tolerate a collar so we just left it off she was ok.

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Date: 4/23/13 10:34 AM

I would keep trying with the hard plastic collar, since she's already showing that she will go after the sutures. I just saw a dog and a cat yesterday which had gone after the incisions post-neutering. The dog needed antibiotics (and an ecollar!!!), and the cat had to be referred for more extensive treatment. Some animals will leave their incisions alone, but unfortunately others will not.

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Date: 4/23/13 12:42 PM

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I would keep trying with the hard plastic collar, since she's already showing that she will go after the sutures.

ITA. As I mentioned in your last post on this subject, just give the e-collar time. Every dog I've ever tried it on (which is more than you can probably imagine! LOL) has gotten used to it within 24 hours. Unfortunately, most owners panic when their dogs freak out, and give in and take the collars off before they have a chance to settle down. She'll be fine. *You'll* want to wear long pants for the first day or so, and learn how to open doors extra wide for her, etc. But she will be fine.

Like I said before, we have tried literally every conceivable alternative (Bite-Not, homemade bite-not with towels, soft e-collars, homemade soft e-collars with boning to keep them rigid, various no-lick wound sprays, covering the wounded area with socks/t-shirts/bike shorts/etc... you name it, we've done it) and finally just came back to using the e-collar. Yes, the dogs are total drama queens about it at first, but it really is the best possible solution to keeping a dog from licking a wound (or protecting a wound--we've had dogs go through ear surgeries where having the hard plastic "armor" was essential to keeping the healing ears from getting bumped).

ETA: Make sure you get one that is big enough to actually prevent her from licking the sutures. We have a couple of different sizes here, and dogs can be surprisingly flexible for reaching the area where her surgery site is. Our dog Gracie had a staph infection recently where she just would not stop licking the insides of her thighs. We had to go up two sizes to get a collar she couldn't reach around!! Your vet can probably advise you on the size to use.

Some dogs can be relied on to be good if you remove the collar for meals, walks, or just while you're available to watch them, so once she's gotten used to it, you can try giving her short (or even long!) supervised breaks. Some dogs, however, will immediately go back to licking the instant you take the collar off. Just experiment and see what works well for you.

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Good luck to you guys! I hope she sails through her recovery with no complications, and thank you for getting her spayed!!



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Date: 4/23/13 2:02 PM

I think with the hair growing back it's making her itchy. She actually hasn't touched the sutures...just licking where she pees. While she's with me, I took it off and she seems to be doing well. I will put it back on her at night in her cage and when I can't watch her.

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Date: 4/23/13 5:09 PM

Are you talking about one of those lamp shades? If you paid for it, it's yours, so give it a trim and see if that will be more comfortable for your dog. It worked for our dog.

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Date: 4/23/13 7:31 PM

I tried the lampshade and it scared her to try to get in her cage and the she couldn't hardly turn around and couldn't eat with it on. The No Bite is just a 6 inch wide flat, hard piece if plastic with a little foam and Velcro and staps that goes around her neck. She's not real fond of it but does do pretty well eating and sleeping with it on.

My vet said to give her 25mg of Benedryl for the itching.

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Date: 4/23/13 8:22 PM

Also keep in mind that even if you're using the "cone of shame," you can certainly have it off for eating/drinking while you're watching her. Not just for this specific situation, but for anyone who's in a similar boat. I get a lot of owners telling me that their animal can't eat with it on, and they sound surprised when I tell them to take it off long enough for eating. ;)

ETA: Glad she's doing well.
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Date: 4/23/13 8:24 PM

When my dog was spayed, she didn't wear any collar at all. Those sutures aren't going to rip open or anything like that; don't worry. As one of the above posters mentioned, it is just itchy; it itches like crazy. My vet even mentioned that. I figured the whole thing was traumatic enough without adding one of those collars to it.

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Date: 4/23/13 9:49 PM

Yes, the incision does itch like crazy. But the concern isn't so much that the sutures will magically rip open - it's that the dog will actually lick or chew them open. Trust me, it does happen. I'm a vet, and I've resutured incisions that animals have reopened.

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