Member since 4/26/13
Date: 5/16/13 12:58 PM
I'm trying to decide on these two sergers offered on ebay, both around $400. Previously, I have used a BL400. After reading reviews here, the two options seem comparable. This would be my only serger and I would like it not to be finicky about fabric types, yet have a great finished seam with out alot of fussing.
Any thoughts? Thanks
Thanks for all the great advice....actually found a White 2000ATS on craigslist yesterday for $125. Picked it up today and am anxious to get to know it. It seems like it has had lots of TLC.
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|2 Airedales n Me
British Columbia CANADA
Member since 3/24/09
|In reply to momwith3flowers <<
Date: 5/17/13 12:18 PM
I have the Elna model you're referring to and honestly it is a bug-bear to thread those loopers! It's the reason I bought a BL Imagine several years ago. I kept the Elna and have it set up as cover hem only.
I don't know the Bernina serger you're referring to but I love Bernina machines in general.
Have you considered a Baby Lock serger?
Member since 1/31/06
|In reply to momwith3flowers <<
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Date: 5/18/13 8:31 AM
I have had personal experience with selling and teaching both models. I can't remember any negative threading issues with the Elna. What I do remember is how effortlessly it went from one stitch to another and how lovely the stitch quality was. It seemed to deliver what it was supposed to. Very similar to a Bernette or BL meaning very reliable.
On the other hand the Bernina 2000 DCE was a machine that did a good overlock stitch but, I think, was overrated as far as all the "other stuff" it did. Mechanically (as a previous machine dealer) we had many issues with the 2000DCE. We sold primarily reasonably basic Bernette overlockers, which IMHO were pretty much foolproof. The Bernina 2000DCE were brought out by the same company but were not in the same league mechanicaly as their cousins the Bernettes.
If you are looking for a good honest overlocker to do a 3 and/or 4 thread stitch for dressmaking it maybe worth looking at a less complicated overlocker than the models you mention. The overlockers you mention offer alot more than the basics, which only you can deccide if you need these features.
I think you could purchase a much younger machine for the same amount of $$$ which may perform even better than these two models. Machine dealers usually offer a warranty on second hand overlockers and this is a bonus. I always worry if the overlocker blades are chipped etc, If you buy on ebay and then need to replace the blades you can be looking at quite an expensive excersise and not really any comeback.
Brother QC1000, Brother PQ1500, Bernina Virtuosa 160, Pfaff (old), Babylock BLCS, Bernette 1100D, Bernette 334DS
|Doris W. in TN
Member since 2/9/04
Date: 5/18/13 9:05 AM
I have the 2000DE and love it. I always heard complaints about the 2000DCE coverstitch either in the changing over or quality of one versus the other. Most people ended up seting it up for one function, and left it there. I also think $400 is to much for that serger. Offer $200 and see what they say. It'll be a good serger or coverstitch (be sure to test drive it both ways) but most likely, and there are always exceptions, not fun to change from one to the other.
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New Mexico USA
Member since 5/9/03
Date: 5/18/13 12:59 PM
I have had the Bernina 2000DCE since 1996. I think it is a good serger, but it is the only one I have ever had. I don't have any problems with threading it, but it was a bit intimidating at first. I just followed the directions, and after a few times of changing thread, it was no big deal. I like that it is electronic because I can control the speed really well. I am a slow stitcher; so this is important to me but probably wouldn't matter a whole lot to most folks.
I primarily use this for seam finishing, but the rolled hems are nice, too.
Now, changing to the coverstitch is time consuming. It takes me about 30-40 minutes. If I would do it more often, it would probably be easier. I also tend to baste a water soluble stabilizer to the hems of my knits to get them to feed through it well, even with differential feed adjustment. Since I don't like the conversion, I just picked up my new Baby Lock Cover Stitch machine Friday. I also have room for both machines, so that wasn't a problem.
I paid $600 for my 2000DCE new in 1996, so I agree the price seems a little high. I would try to negotiate.
Just my experience, for what it is worth.
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