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Message Board > Fitting Woes > Jalie 2908 ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 5/19/13 7:29 PM

I can't believe what I'm finding. I made these pants according to my measurements. I supposedly have an inch ease on both waist and hips. Now I've triple-checked everything (I made a size Z) and the pants don't even come close to closing around my waist. I would need 3 more inches to make them really tight! I have read ALL the reviews I think, I used non-stretch denim but so did people who said one-half inch ease was sufficient. I am just really perplexed. If I were to try again, I would have no idea what size to start with. It's been a major bummer!

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Date: 5/19/13 8:12 PM

I know it can be a bummer when you think you've made the right size however.....

Did you do a flat pattern measurement check or go by the chart?
This Jalie pattern is designed for stretch denim and has negative ease meaning that even though it says it's for say a 36" hip it's actually smaller than that so that the denim doesn't stretch and bag out when wearing.

I know that some of the reviews people have used non stretch denim and gone up a size with good results. I've made it and can tell you that going up a size for me they would still be too small.

So sorry this happened. It's frustrating. There's a lot of work in making jeans to be almost finished and then they don't fit.

Debbie

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Date: 5/19/13 10:50 PM

Thank you Debbie.. So a flat pattern measurement is called for? I've never heard about negative ease before; maybe I should change intermediate to beginner, and go with the safer sounding Kwik Sew jeans pattern.

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Date: 5/20/13 10:01 AM

nestle, what a drag. Just consider these your test sew, and start again. It's all a learning experience...

I am putting in the zipper for V1312 today. I flat pattern measured, read reviews, studied the line drawings and decided on a size. Cut, sewed, added lining, and...yes, a tad tight! Wish me luck.

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Date: 5/20/13 11:48 AM

I feel your frustration. I recently sewed a pair of pants and they were too tight. Then I sewed a pair of shorts and they were too loose. I found my error in the pants, but according to the finished garment measurements for the shorts they should have been right. So either I have to break down and do a muslin for fit or measure the paper pattern again very, very, carefully, or draw a new sloper, or both...But I'm taking marec's advice on this.

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Date: 5/21/13 1:51 AM

I find denim particularly difficult to gauge, and leave 1-2" side seam allowances for extra fitting help. Some denims aren't as flexible as others. If I remember correctly, the pattern calls for 4% stretch denim. That's a lot of stretch! This is why the pattern is cut smaller, and could be part of the problem.

For non-stretch, I would measure the actual pattern first and choose a size accordingly.

With denim you want to cut with all the pieces using the same nap. The twill has an interesting distortion if you cut the pieces where some are upside down. On my first muslin, I had done this. The first time I tried them on they were huge, and the second time trying on the same pair they were a struggle to put on. Kind of like the Chinese finger trap!

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Date: 6/9/13 11:56 PM

Thank you all for your help. I have actually sat down and scotch taped the pattern back together and am going to measure, add 3 inches ease, and make a Muslin (thank goodness I maintain clean sewing trash). I made a pair of pants from a Burda pattern this year and they were wry near perfect, so I will consult that pattern too. I'll let you know how it works out.

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