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Date: 5/20/13 1:12 PM

Ok, so: I haven't put a zipper in anything in about 20 years, but I'm fairly confident I can learn how. :b

I have Vogue 8718 in my stash. I know most people bought it for the ruched-sleeve jacket, so I haven't found any reviews anywhere covering the pants. It looks like the world's easiest pants pattern, but it calls for a zipper in the back.

First question: Any reason I couldn't move that to the front or a side seam? (Obviously moving the waistband opening, as well.)

Second question: All of my RTW pants that don't zip up the front use an invisible zipper, but this pattern doesn't call for one. When it says "7-inch zipper," are they assuming that this is obvious... or will the zipper be exposed... or is there something else happening that I'm not seeing in the line drawing or instructions?

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Date: 5/20/13 1:31 PM

I think it would look a little odd in the front. Generally front zips have a fly and while I've done the invisible zip in the front the tab hanging down does look a little unusual. There's no reason why you couldn't move it to the side though.

There's also no reason why you couldn't use an invisible zip. Some people say they are weaker but I have never had one break on me.

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Date: 5/20/13 1:43 PM

Quote: stirwatersblue
Ok, so: I haven't put a zipper in anything in about 20 years, but I'm fairly confident I can learn how. :b



I have Vogue 8718 in my stash. I know most people bought it for the ruched-sleeve jacket, so I haven't found any reviews anywhere covering the pants. It looks like the world's easiest pants pattern, but it calls for a zipper in the back.



First question: Any reason I couldn't move that to the front or a side seam? (Obviously moving the waistband opening, as well.)



Second question: All of my RTW pants that don't zip up the front use an invisible zipper, but this pattern doesn't call for one. When it says "7-inch zipper," are they assuming that this is obvious... or will the zipper be exposed... or is there something else happening that I'm not seeing in the line drawing or instructions?



Thanks!!

I have almost successful avoided zip for about that long, but last year's Vintage contest I had to "relearn". Yes, any zipper that size will work and after several tests I found the invisible ones much easier to re-learn.

Agree, I don't think in front is an option, but see no issues with the side seam. Do you see anything that would prevent you from rotating the waist to accommodate the move to a side zip?

You might want to get a 2nd zipper to give it a try on spare fabric for practice 1st.

I know you can do this!! You-tube is always full of good video's on how to if you need visual - the instructions on zippers are awful!

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Date: 5/20/13 1:44 PM

If you have the pattern, pull out the instructions and find the zip insertion. It may be a lapped or a "regular" zipper.

I would think changing it to a side zip would be easy - unless there are some kind of complicated pockets.

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Date: 5/20/13 2:38 PM

I put in a front invisible zipper in some shorts I made. I love it! As long as the waistband overlaps in the front, you can conceal the little tab. The are flattering without all the bulk of a fly zipper.

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Date: 5/20/13 2:42 PM

I agree, you should be able to do a side zipper, although since the pants have a waistband you'd have to redesign that to open at the side rather than the back. I suspect that's why they did it with a back zip, so you could have a waistband but not have to do a whole fly front overlap thing with the waistband.

If you want an even simpler style to try out, look for something that has a faced waist rather than a separate waistband piece, and then you really can move the zipper to whatever seam you want without much fuss. Vogue has a lot of those in their wardrobe patterns, iirc.

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Date: 5/20/13 4:55 PM

Like many have said, you can move the zipper easily to the side. LauraTS made a good point too when she counseled you to find a faced waist pant pattern. Then you don't have to worry about the waistband issue.

When you start on the zipper, pin it in to make sure you have it oriented correctly. Then, unpin and use wonder tape to baste one side in. Sew, and go onto the other side. If no wonder tape, hand baste. Both work for me. When installing an invisible zip, I have done it with the seam sewed up (and then stitching removed from the zipper area) and without. I find it easier without sewing the seam first.

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Date: 5/21/13 7:27 AM

StirWaters,
Somewhere recently I saw that moving the zip to the side may change the drape since we are generally flat in the back but curved on the side. IMO you'd have to be either pretty curvy or particular to be worried about that. Just tossing it out there as another thing to consider.

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Date: 5/21/13 10:22 AM

I also don't see a problem with this going on the side. The pants look like they drape enough to handle it. I've been putting in zippers for decades, but could never master(or like)the lapped zipper. I recently found a free class on Craftsy, explaining how to install all kinds of zippers... You might want to check it out

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Date: 5/21/13 11:27 AM

The zipper should be easy to put in.
But you should put stabilizer on so the fabric doesn't stretch.
Make sure it made for that kind of fabric.
In rtw clothes I see it all the time.
Here's a place that give you lots of show how to put that kind of zipper in.
invisible zipper
hope this help you some what.

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