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Date: 6/10/13 5:49 PM

I have wide hips, smallish waist, and a relatively flat rear with a tendency to "lowness" as far as where I have the most mass.

A pair of KMart Basic Editions RTW elastic-waist pants in a size larger than most people would pick for me fits amazingly well through the hips and crotch. They are definitely cut to be suitable to a flatter (not uber-flat but flatter) rear or a lower bulk. To fit really well for me I might lower the center back by 1/4" or 1/2" but that's about it. They have a wide leg but someone who wanted a narrower leg could narrow them easily enough.

I've learned a lot from RTW that almost fits and these with a bow-leg adjustment and CB adjustment would be very, very close.

A pair of culottes from WalMart in a bad loud plaid were cheap and also provided insight.

Anyone else want to mention currently available pants, cheap enough to take apart might be a plus, that got you close to your final pattern? Describe your shape and fit issues and then tell us where to go!

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Date: 6/10/13 6:41 PM

Princess - I have not yet found time to go down the rabbit hole of pants fitting, but I do have a couple of pairs that are in the waiting area preparing to sacrifice themselves to that goal some day. And fabric in the stash, too. I just have to let go of the idea that I need a new ball gown every time I finish one (or before I finish one, or in some cases, before I even begin one..... ) and give myself time to do some other sewing for myself. Eager to see what comes up here.

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Date: 6/11/13 10:58 PM

Do love the description 'tendency to lowness'.
Thanks Mole Princess, still giggling here..

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Date: 6/12/13 5:54 AM

I was shocked to find a decent-fitting pair of RPL pants at Target a few years ago, for under $30. They come in a variety of proportions labeled Fit 1 thru 4. One of this year's versions: Mossimo pants I wore them for 4 straight days in NYC, and once I found them and fell in love with them, I sure didn't want to take them apart. A little measuring and comparing convinced me that Mossimo must secretly be using Jalie 2909. The crotch length (both front and back), thigh width, etc was identical, when I dropped down one size for the front and went up one size for the back. All I had to do was design in some details like the pockets and the contour waistband (easy: just create the pattern by tracing the top few inches of the Jalie pattern.)
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Date: 6/13/13 7:13 AM

Thanks, Karla! Very interesting that Target has the several fits. So you eased the larger back to the smaller front at the sides? It's not much longer at the sides, the size changes are more in width? And the easing serves your purposes anyway? Or do you use the width of the back, but shorten it to match the front?

Now I know you do this w/ both tops (from another thread) AND pants! :-) I feel quite emboldened. Actually, with today's tops that don't have a larger back armhole as older patterns do, you could be killing a lot of birds w/ one stone by doing that, I would think.






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Date: 6/13/13 10:58 AM

No easing. I just adjusted the sideseam length at the waist edge; the difference between the front and back is so minimal that it would be impossible to determine whether it resulted from the accurate copying of the pattern or the inaccurate sewing of the machine operator. Probably the latter. I adjusted the leg length on the pattern to make sure the notches lined up, then aimed for a happy medium at the waist edge. I have no shame.

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Date: 6/14/13 10:16 AM

Being pragmatic and flexible is no cause for shame! It takes skill to know when you can fudge. Thank you for sharing your secrets. I had never really thought before about how little side seam difference there would be. Makes sense, since we don't vary in height by as much as we vary in bulk.

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Date: 6/18/13 9:57 AM

I have several pair of those Mossimo jeans. I love them but I'm convinced that I need to shorten the front rise on every pair of pants I own to be 100% happy with them.

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Date: 6/18/13 11:40 AM

You can make a pattern from your fav RTW pants without taking them apart. They need to be turned insode out and really smoothed so you can see those seams, then trace them allowing a nice seam allowance. In my case I added a wedge to the back so I would have a higher wist in the back since i always need to yank up pants I make unless I alter there. I did this and had almost the perfect pattern. One thing about making pants - there will always be creases somewhere because they need to move and fold as they are over two legs and a body part, so go easy on yourself.For a pattern I didn't draft I love Burda. It is my body shape and CC is well done. For some people this doesn't work though, so try a few out. Once you do have that master pattern you can make the legs narrow or wide, etc., etc. Do a false fly front or elastic or a waistband, it's all up to you.

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Date: 6/18/13 1:16 PM

I want to copy a fav pair of RTW trouser jeans and they are falling apart because of my love for them so I don't mind deconstructing them.

Would I still want to muslin considering they're literally disintegrating in places? LOL!! I hate muslining...but I'd be sad to buy some type of awesome fabric and ruin it...again...

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