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Message Board > Fitting Woes > Simplicity 2700 front bagginess ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Simplicity 2700 front bagginess
Wearable muslin I hope!
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Date: 6/18/13 8:03 PM

So I previously muslin'ed this pattern - HERE I'd forgotten the outside seams were 1". One confusing part...are the inner leg seams also 5/8" and the crotch 5/8"?? Or is the inner seam 1" and the crotch 5/8"?

At any rate, they're still too big up front. I intended these to be wearable but if I have to sacrifice the fabric in order to be a muslin, that's okay too. Right now, the side seams and crotch seams are all basted, not sewn.

I should have read a little more before hand...as I chose my pattern sizes based on the measurements in the little tables and lots of people complained about the fit. I think the back looks ok, from the back it doesn't look snug, and I forgot MNBarb said I should shorten my darts a bit...but from the side it looks like it's pulling in the back. The side seams aren't pressed but I think they're fairly vertical. But the front is saggy baggy crotch city.

I'd really (REALLY) love to make this a wearable muslin. I like this simple grey fabric but it was a FM steal at $1.99/yd so...











This is the front crotch of the pants vs. a good fitting RTW pair.
-- Edited on 6/18/13 8:10 PM --

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Date: 6/18/13 8:03 PM

And I only have on one shoe. I don't know if that's causing the pulling in the back right leg...that I might not necessarily be 'balanced'

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Date: 6/18/13 8:21 PM

I know nothing about pants fitting, but THOSE ARE *TOTALLY* WEARABLE.

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Date: 6/18/13 9:50 PM

I think those are very wearable.

If you look at the side picture you can see that the front waist is sitting lower than the back. Pull the waist up so that it's level with the back and the wrinkling through the lower leg will go away!

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Date: 6/18/13 10:06 PM

Thanks Debbie! I think it's pulling down because it's like super extra baggy in the front. I should take a pic grabbing all the excess fabric in the front

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Date: 6/19/13 0:50 AM

I took a closer look at the pattern vs. rtw and it looks longer in the front crotch length.

Do the pants hit at roughly the same point on the waist?
Measure the difference in the crotch lengths and pin a wedge out at cf to nothing at the ss and see if that makes them more comfortable. If it does you can take the pattern and do a pivot and slide to take that amount off the top of the pants (take the waistband off first) tapering to nothing at the ss. It will shorten the zipper and very slightly affect the pockets on this pair.

If this fix works you can do the same alteration to the pattern so that you can get the same pockets and zipper length back on the next pair.

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Date: 6/19/13 7:26 PM

I'll post updated pics tomorrow but...I made some tweaks and they look MUCH better. I'll totally cut a different size front piece next time but I'm really happy with the fit.

I went to show my husband and he said, "you bought new pants?" Yessss!!!!!and he's not an oblivious type of hubby either...sometimes he points out things I didn't see or don't care to acknowledge ;)

However, I made but one critical mistake--I adjusted the center back/back crotch seam and the outer seams at the same time. Now I'm not sure which adjustment added the slight tugging around the butt. It's ok though, I'll sort it out, and by weeks end I'll have pants that I made!

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Date: 6/19/13 7:50 PM

I agree, they are totally wearable, although I do see what you're talking about. I think you would have good luck in shortening the front crotch length - it's almost a tilted waist alteration although I'm not sure if that's the correct term for your figure, because how the waistband falls looks fine, you just need a little bit out between the waistband and the end of the crotch. Also, the whole thing may be just hanging up on your upper thighs and giving this appearance - these look like classic trousers which are designed to hang straight off the hip and be full through the thigh, so they may be just a tad too tight at the low hip/upper thigh.

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Date: 6/20/13 8:46 AM

Alrighty. So I made the following changes:

changed to 1" front crotch seam (was 5/8")
changed to 1" inseam (was 5/8")
added 1/4" to cb seam



The front is "wrinkly" but it represents more how I'd like them to look than the photo on the left does. I don't like how they just hang off my body in the first shot.



This is the back after making the above changes.

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Then I thought maybe I could take in the side seams more to reduce the front wrinkles. Worked for the front, made the back too tight:



Suggestions?

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Date: 6/20/13 8:49 AM

Quote: LauraTS
I agree, they are totally wearable, although I do see what you're talking about. I think you would have good luck in shortening the front crotch length - it's almost a tilted waist alteration although I'm not sure if that's the correct term for your figure, because how the waistband falls looks fine, you just need a little bit out between the waistband and the end of the crotch. Also, the whole thing may be just hanging up on your upper thighs and giving this appearance - these look like classic trousers which are designed to hang straight off the hip and be full through the thigh, so they may be just a tad too tight at the low hip/upper thigh.

And now that I look at the second round of pictures, I think you're right that the distance from waistband to bottom of the front crotch is just too long -- that's where it's bunching. I think Simplystitches said it too...

I don't have much extra I can remove from the top without affecting the zipper though.

ETA: I was looking at a pic of me in a RTW pants and they were ALSO pulling in toward the center on the right thigh area *only*. Suggestions on why this may be?
-- Edited on 6/20/13 8:50 AM --

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