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Date: 6/23/13 1:29 AM

I went to Joann's and saw there is Gutermann machine embroidery thread that comes in small 220 yd spools. But it doesn't list the weight. It only says 100% viscose. Doesn't anyone know the weight of the thread?

I also saw there is Sulky 40 wt. thread. Pretty colors. Anyone use these threads with their embroidery machines?

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Date: 6/23/13 3:24 AM

I have different colored Gütermann 220 yds 100% viscose embroidery thread made in Germany(I probably have 50 different colors by now.)

I like the sheen and the small spools for special projects when I don't want or need many different colored larger cones.Most of my regular embroidery thread is Gütermann Sulky.I like it,although it's expensive in my neck of the woods.I have Marathon and Coats and Clark embroidery thread too.

My machine likes all good brands of embroidery thread,except Jenny Haskins' embroidery thread.It's the only brand of embroidery thread that breaks frequently in my machine.The thread cone shaft is too large to sit properly on the thread spool pin too.

Unfortunately,the dealer where I buy my regular Sulky embroidery thread has less color choices in the Sulky thread stand now,since he started selling Jenny Haskins'.That's why I started to replace Gütermann Sulky colors with Marathon embroidery threads another dealer sells.

In this pdf document it says Gütermann embroidery thread is 40 weight. Please scroll down to read other information too,as well as here.


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Date: 6/23/13 5:59 AM

Tee Gee, which brand and model embroidery machine do you have? Thanks for the info about the threads. I had some success with my new Brother PE 700II machine tonight which made me feel better because the thread jammed the first time I used it. I used the thread that came with the machine. Tomorrow, I may try some Gutermann thread and see how it likes it. Wish me luck!

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Date: 6/23/13 11:03 AM

I had the original PE770 and used PolyX thread almost exclusively. My dealer also sold Madeira and Robison Anton, neither of which could be used reliably in the 770 because of shredding. Sulky seemed to work ok, but I never tried Gutermann. I acquired some Floriani thread in a promotional package and so far my Ellegante likes it just fine. Still have the 770 but haven't used the Floriani in it yet. PolyX has a great color selection and is reasonably priced, which matters a lot to me!

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Date: 6/23/13 8:40 PM

Is PolyX the same as PolyStar? Wow, there are just so many brands of threads. I'm surprised to hear that Madeira and R.A. didn't work well in your P770 as it seems they are suppose to be good quality threads. I guess the only way to find out if my machine likes a certain thread is to buy a spool of different brands and try them out. So far, my PE700II seems to like the Brother Pacesetter thread that came with it once I overcame the tension issues. I will need to test out my theory of using the wrong stabilizer (not thick enough) with my woven cotton fabric and see how my machine behaves with using the thicker stabilizer.

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Date: 6/24/13 9:03 AM

Sulky is a great embroidery thread. It doesn't break easily or clog the machine. I have most of their colors as I, "Sew By Number." I can only use embroidery patterns that list the Sulky numbers! Pick a brand and stick with it! I don't know if there are any reliable conversion charts that will convert each manufacturer's numbers to theirs! Some patterns have so many little color variations that it's nearly impossible to change the colors yourself and not have the design look terrible. So, I say get one brand and select embroideries that give you that brand's color numbers to use!

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Date: 6/24/13 10:06 AM

From what I can see, PolyX 40 and Poly Star are not the same. This is based on descriptions provided on Amazon. However, Poly Star claims it's a good match for Brother/Baby Lock machines. If you live close enough to a dealer to buy thread as you need it, do that instead of ordering thread collections. Most dealers have a discount day or some other savings program for buying thread. Most brands have a colorchart you can use to check off colors as you buy them. Many embroidery software programs include a color conversion feature that is handy if you are nervous about color matching.

When I started with machine embroidery, I was terrified of deviating from the stated design colors. Since then, I've gained confidence in self-selecting colors using the design colors as a guide. I group the thread spools onto a piece of the fabric to get a better idea of how they all go together. Don't be afraid to do a trial stitch out on scrap, especially if you have doubts about design density, stabilizer choice, and/or color choices.

You'll learn as you go what works best for you. Have fun!

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Date: 6/24/13 12:01 PM

40wt is the standard. If it were different, it would be noted on the spool.

There are two different ways thread is factory wound onto the spool/cone.

Use a thread stand if your embroidery machine does not have an antenna/tower that provides an upward lift to the thread as it leaves the spool/cone and provides the first guide from the spool/cone.

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Date: 6/24/13 4:16 PM

Quote: rubbecca
Tee Gee, which brand and model embroidery machine do you have? Thanks for the info about the threads. I had some success with my new Brother PE 700II machine tonight which made me feel better because the thread jammed the first time I used it. I used the thread that came with the machine. Tomorrow, I may try some Gutermann thread and see how it likes it. Wish me luck!

Rubbecca,good luck and lots of fun with your new embroidery machine ! A friendly warning,machine embroidery can be addictive !

I have a now defunct older Pfaff stand alone embroidery machine with 3D software I happen to like very much.The recommended thread brand for my machine is Sulky.I can change thread brands around in the software,I never bothered to do that.

At the Sulky site at the side bar one can find and download very nice color charts.I printed out this pdf color group chart on high gloss photo paper sheets and keep them in clear plastic pockets in a ring binder.At a glance I can pick similar other brand colors I have too.

Most of the time I don't use the colors or the thread brand the digitizer recommends.I pick my own colors and thread brand.I line different colors up by color numbers 1 2 3 ....in the file next to my embroidery machine,instead of changing the colors in the original embroidery file in my software.When I embroider the same design more than once on different items,none of the colors are quite the same either.I get easily bored doing the same thing.
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