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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Innov-is NX 2000 Laura Ashley and Heavy Denim Jeans ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Innov-is NX 2000 Laura Ashley and Heavy Denim Jeans
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Date: 6/25/13 11:50 AM

This Innov-is NX 2000 is probably my most treasured posession. I bought it in 2011, and it's running beautifully, and I would hate to abuse it by making it do something it's not meant to. Having three males in our family, I constantly have to mend, alter, hem jeans. I alter and hem all my jeans, too. I also want to sew Vera-Bradley type of bags and make some heavy curtains.
If I push the black button on the presser foot, and if I go slowly, it sews through heavy seams, albeit reluctantly. My husband wants me to get an industrial straight stitch because he is afraid that the Innov-is will eventually give in. Right now, in addition to a few hours of working with lighter fabric, I sew heavy jeans about 2-4 hours per week. I plan on sewing heavy stuff more in the future. Any experts out there on brother machines who know the answer? Thank you very much.
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Date: 6/25/13 2:06 PM

Probably if you are always going to sew that kind of fabric an industrial would be a good way to go. Even that or a machine designed to sew sails.

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Date: 6/25/13 3:24 PM

I just posted on my blog about how to use a "jeans jack" or "seam jack," to help you sew over those bulky seams. http://shesasewingmachinemechanic.blogspot.com/

If you can't afford an industrial, there's some things to look for in a stronger machine. #1 is "chain driven," Which means the belt has teeth that corespond with the teeth on the motor pulley. #2 is a DC motor, which is just more powerful than the AC motors. #3 is a metal hook and bobbin case. Those plastic drop-in bobbins don't last very long when sewing with heavy fabrics.

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Date: 6/25/13 7:17 PM

Your husband is encouraging you to get another machine? I'd take advantage of that and go for it.

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Date: 6/25/13 8:11 PM

Two - four hours per week on repairs? What he heck are you guys doing?

A mechanical machine, and not necessarily industrial will handle the jeans and other projects you have in mind.

The right needle, changed often also makes a big difference in the operation of any sewing machine.

The release button you mentioned may now be a standard feature. If not there is always the "hump-jumper" or "jean-ama-jig" to help keep the presser foot level as you stitch over thick seams.

Test as many different brands and models models as you can find with the request for stitching thick fabrics. Take a few scraps for the test drive.

I also sewed for myself, the home and three guys all with a Singer Golden Touch 'N Sew. Didn't have many choices back in the seventies and no one had ever heard of a serger!


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Date: 6/25/13 11:37 PM

My local Brother dealer tried to sell me a NX-2000 two years ago. I tried the machine by bringing in a pair of jeans to hem and silk chiffon todo a rolled hem. It struggled with both. On the jeans the dealer told me to stop before the jeans jump and lift the presser foot. Click it into place sew over the hump. Raise the presser foot and reclick it into its original position. To much for me. The feed dogs were not in the correct position to sew the silk chiffon. We finally got t to do it but had to make so many adjustments that I would never do it in real life. Most old singers will sew these items with ease. I loved the feature set of the NX-2000 and Im sure it will sew denim for you as you do not sew it very much. I needed a machine that would just sew over the humps with no fiddling. I have hemmed probably 2000 pairs of jeans or more on my pfaff 2030. Not a very highly recommended model but it will sew over the seams with ease. It also sews the silk chiffon hems with no adjustment from jeans to chiffon. If your going to sew alot of denim. I suggest a Juki 5500 or 8700. Make sure you get the one made in Japan as the other factories produce machines that dont perform as well. Id also spring for the servo motor. A new model should set you back about $800 much less than a home machine. The servo motor will be an additional $150 but worth it. It will be quiet and more easy to handle if your not use to an industrial machine. The 8700-7 would be nice if you want the auto thread cut and back stitch. It also has the auto pressor foot lifter. Great if you like these features in a home machine and it will set you back about $2000. If you need a portable machine good luck unless you by vintage. Ive been looking for a new machine for a while with no luck. Happy denim sewig!

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Date: 6/26/13 9:43 AM

BTDT.

After several costly repairs to my NX650Q due to abuse, er "user error" I bought a Brother 1500. Straight stitch only and it plows through everything!

This monster sewed through a Timbuk 2 messenger bag+3 layers of heavy webbing+ denim patch+interior memory foam+ heavy nylon divider w/ 2 layers of Cordura all AT ONCE with a dull needle and never once cried, " Foul!". The above was an accident as User did not manipulate the bag properly to compensate for the flat bed. It has also beautifully sewn 8 layers of back pack webbing on a fully loaded pack...pack was held/guided by son as Mom fixed strap that broke as guys heading out the door to a trip.

My husband was not keen on the addition of the Beast, but the repairs to $$$$ camping/backpacking equipment have impressed him. It also comes with a nice array of feet and does the most perfect top stitching, ever!

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Date: 6/26/13 11:41 AM

I'm also 1 to vote for the Brother PQ1500s. It's a straight stitch machine with speed, includes a walking foot and you can add a compansating foot set for perfect top stitching close to the edge. This machine does a 7mm stitch lenght for basting, full rotary metal hook and sews jeans like a dream.

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Date: 7/4/13 2:02 AM

Thank you all for your kind replies. For those of you who might have the same question, I thought I'd update. Last week, I called Brother technical support and asked the same question. She didn't seem very knowledgeable but replied that if I sew heavy stuff a lot, it may possibly damage the machine. She suggested that when I am going through a very thick hump, to manually turn the wheel so that I don't stress the motor. She didn't specify what would be considered a lot.
I also visited a local industrial sewing machine company called C.H. Holderby, and the sales person recommended and showed me a $900 Sunstar and a $2500 Sunstar with all the bells and whistles. According to him, nowadays, nearly all of the industrial sewing machines are made in China, that is including Adler and Juki. He said that Adler has only one model that's still made in Germany, and it cost more than $6000! He also told me that he 100% recommends the $2500 Sunstar KM-350 7S over Juki. I wonder why he was giving me info on just Sunstar? I gave him my number so that he could call me if he has a great used machine. I can't find any reviews on Sunstar either online or on PR. I still love my Innov-is NX2000 for all the features, but if I had known better, I would have bought an industrial machine straight stitch to start with. Or I should have gone with Brother 1500. I will just have to be extra cautious until my circumstances allow me to purchase another machine. Since I am rather ignorant about industrial machines, I feel a bit leery about buying a used one, and also about online purchase. Being a beginner, I can't justify spending that much money, but I am really drooling over industrial machines, now. Our family's favorite clothing is denim, and hubby and I have weird bodies that requires alterations for every new pair of jeans. Maybe in a few years. . .

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Date: 7/4/13 6:09 AM

You will love an industrial. I sew on a Juki DDL-5550-6 every day. It is made in Japan. All industrials are not made in China. Juki makes them in China and Japan with the Japanese ones being better than the Chinese ones. I have never heard of Sunstar and Ive been sewing professionally for 25 years. Plus the guys prices are high. You can buy a brand new Juki or Brother industrial for less. Try Atlas Levy in Los Angeles. He has a website. I had two machines shipped to New Mexico for $175 to my door. Also check Craigslist in your area. Industrials are not like home machines. They need adjustment in a different way. Usually its just timing or tension related. So buying used is much less of a risk. Good luck. Id check out the Juki 8700 for a new machine. Get the one made in Japan.

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