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Designer pattern in Vogue - all the same block?
Does it fit like a Kors or like a Vogue?
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Date: 7/17/13 12:19 PM

Hi,

I had a pair of RTW Michael Kors pants (bought at TJ Maxx some years ago) that fit me almost perfectly. (I have almost no waist and a relatively small bum.) I have an OOP Michael Kors pants pattern V2873that, if memory serves, was reviewed in Threads long ago and the sewer commented that it fit like an Ann Taylor pant (which I was also wearing at the time because I liked the fit).

OK, so my question - does Vogue make designer patterns by using the designer's block? Or do they take the design details and add them to their own standard block?

I've made pants before and I'm definitely willing to tweak, but I'm hoping to get something that fits a little better at baseline.

Thanks for your thoughts,
June

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Date: 7/17/13 4:18 PM

I think your question would be perfect to ask vogue customer service directly. The submission form is here:
Vogue contact us page

The first category is 'Pattern and Sewing Technical Questions'. How perfect is that?

Of course you would come back here and let us know their response.

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Date: 7/17/13 5:07 PM

Will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

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Date: 7/17/13 5:19 PM

Unfortunately, Vogue does not use a designer's original block -- Vogue uses Vogue's own block and then copies the designer's details. The only exception to this rule is one vintage Calvin Klein jeans pattern from the 1980s that used Calvin Klein's exact sizing (stated in big bold letters on the pattern envelope).

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Date: 7/17/13 5:28 PM

I've been sewing since dinosaurs walked the earth, and this is reaching waaay back in memory, but I recall a discussion of this in something like Threads Magazine, or maybe it was even Vogue Patterns back in the day. What I remember is that for a period of time, the designers' blocks were in fact unique and were printed by Vogue to the designer's specs. From my own experience, I know--having overlaid patterns for comparison--that Calvin Klein's pants block was quite different from Vogue's standard pants block in the 1970s.

However, at some point, Vogue largely abandoned this practice. I doubt that any Vogue Designer patterns now have a unique block, with the possible exception of Claire Shaeffer's or Sandra Betzina's designs.

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Date: 7/26/13 4:14 PM

I just want to follow-up here and report that Vogue customer service did not respond to my 7/17 request for info. I feel fortunate that we have many experienced sewers on board here who step up and are generous with their knowledge.

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Date: 7/26/13 4:21 PM

I'm truely disappointed to hear that. I contacted Simplicity with a question a few months ago and got a prompt, polite response. Why bother having that contact address if they aren't going to respond. Sorry about that.

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Date: 7/29/13 7:39 PM

My apologies. Replied to the wrong thread.
-- Edited on 7/29/13 7:42 PM --

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Date: 7/30/13 2:32 PM

Quote: JOshiro
I just want to follow-up here and report that Vogue customer service did not respond to my 7/17 request for info. I feel fortunate that we have many experienced sewers on board here who step up and are generous with their knowledge.

No surprise here!
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Date: 7/30/13 8:16 PM

Vogue shows the designer pattern, but it uses it's own block for the pattern. Recently there was a Donna Karan knit dress with complicated ruching. A number of people made the dress and commented that there was quite a bit more ease than there was on the model, who was wearing the designer original.
I don't know exactly how Vogue makes a pattern from a designer original, but I do know that for consistency they use their own block.

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