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Contrast waistband ouy of woven fabric
kayco
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Date: 7/17/13 7:39 PM

This pattern KS3742 is a woven pullover top. View A has contrast neck, sleeve bands and waistband which are also listed out of woven fabric. Does a woven waistband seem odd? I'm wondering if I should or could use a rib knit for the contrast fabric. Any thoughts to share?
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Date: 7/17/13 11:23 PM

You could use a rib knit, or another knit with lycra. Just make sure it's not too heavy,if your main fabric is lightweight.
I would probably omit the placket, just because I'm a little lazy and buttonholes on rib knits aren't my favorite to do.
You might have to use shorter lengths for the bands when using a knit vs a woven.

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Date: 7/18/13 12:47 PM

I'm guessing the pattern is for knit-o-phobes. The woven waistband should work well so long as it is exactly the right length to stay at the place on your body where you want it to fall. If you took a length of the woven, pinned it around yourself fairly closely at what you think is the right height, then wear it around a little while and see if it feels right and stays where you want it . . . that should get you there. But knit would work as well; divide the knit in equal portions and divide the woven in the same number of portions. Pin together at sides, centers, and all the other matching points, then stretch the knit to the length of the woven as you sew.

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Date: 7/18/13 1:43 PM

I can't tell from the listing - does the waistband have an opening (w/ button or snap or hook/eye or something)?

That photo really looks like the band and cuffs should be knit. I've seen a something like it in RTW before - light weight, flowy blouse (poly chiffon or similar) w/ rib knit waistband and cuffs.

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Date: 7/18/13 8:04 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful replies. I've looked at the instructions and no the "waistband" doesn't have buttons, it is sewn as a closed circle. Notice I put "waistband" in quotes, because looking at the pictures I think it falls more on the models hips and I can tell you in order for a woven to be a "pull over" on me the band would need to be so big that it would float on the waist but would probably just fall to the hips. Not something I need . I was thinking light cotton blouson style with the band nipping in where the hips start to curve to the waist and the woven part blouses over it. The point of buttonholes in a knit is well taken. If I go with knit I will probably make it a false placket with decorative buttons or Ö just ditch the placket. I think Iíll also consider a stretch/lycra woven. What I really think, is Iíll put this one aside for a while. Iím dieting (60# down 15# to go) and Iíve been dying to sew garments for soooooooooooooo long. Iím tired of just altering, altering, altering and getting by with cheap RTW. Right now I want to make a few simple tops to ďget me thruĒ. I donít want to do anything to complex or fitted and at first glance this seemed like a good choice for a nice but inexpensive cotton I have in my stash. I so very much appreciate you all taking the time to give me your thoughts. BTW the waist and sleeve bands in this view (A) are cut on the crosswise grain, but on View A the arm/wristbands are cut on the lengthwise grain and also are closed circles. Odd IMHO. Maybe this is why this pattern was OPP and never reviewed. Thanks again Ė if I make it up, Iíll report back.

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Date: 7/19/13 5:30 AM

The contrast bands are cut crosswise just to save fabric, I think. If that isn't an issue for you, cutting them on grain is so much easier.
I like Mole Princess's advice, I'll follow it if I make a blouson top. I certainly do not want a band at hip level.

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Date: 7/19/13 10:01 AM

Yes I think you're right about the grain, just odd because you'd lose what little stretch you'd get from the crosswise grain. Re: blouson - it seems with a woven:
If the length of the bodice fabric is long enough to actually blouson, the band is going to fall to a point of the body which is wide enough to stop the effect of gravity so you couldn't keep it at the waist.
If the length of the bodice fabric is shorter the band is going to hang from that length wherever and either be a floating ring or collapse into folds.
I Just don't see how this pattern would work well with the fabric suggested. I think if I make this pattern up, I'll go the knit route.

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Cricket - Bernina Artista 730e - Steady, Smart and Sweet
Renee - Berina 1150MDA - My Tiny Dancer

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Date: 7/19/13 2:19 PM

I am going to disagree with cutting the bands on grain-crosswise is usually has a bit of a stretch even with a woven and that might be why it said crosswise. A waistband on a skirt or pants is cut on grain so they do not have stretch. I agree with others who said you could use a knit for the bands. I would also use a drapey fabric like a challis or a lightweight linen not something like a quilting cotton that might be too stiff with all those gathers.

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Date: 7/19/13 2:31 PM

Quote: kayco
... Right now I want to make a few simple tops to ďget me thruĒ. I donít want to do anything to complex or fitted and at first glance this seemed like a good choice for a nice but inexpensive cotton I have in my stash.

Well, nice, but inexpensive cotton to me means -

Sorbetto! (Sleeves are available here and variations (and tutorials for them) abound, including kimono sleeves done 2 ways - by adding a band or by using the sleeve pattern to create a pattern for cut-on sleeves, reversing the pleat, extending the length to a dress, etc.

If you want really un-fitted (no darts or pleats), try this variation. I still haven't done it, but plan to eventually, lol.

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Date: 7/19/13 7:04 PM

Marie, I think I'll have to agree with you on the grain issue.
And
Donna , thank you for the inf and links that does fit the bill!!!

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Cricket - Bernina Artista 730e - Steady, Smart and Sweet
Renee - Berina 1150MDA - My Tiny Dancer

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