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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Using Binders on combo Elna ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Using Binders on combo Elna
Not sure where to stick it
Lori Githens
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Date: 7/19/13 1:12 PM

Ages ago, I got the eBay binders and was able to stick them on my Elna 945 and was successful applying a knit binding to a top. I just did the project, got out of garment sewing for awhile and now I'm trying to do it again.

I'm having trouble knowing where to stick the binder in relationship to the foot and needle. I'm using a narrow coverstitch and the 3/8 A binder. My stitches are straddling the edge. I've tried adjusting the left screw, but that's not helping. I keep fiddling with the binder placement and I either the straddle, or go heading to the right, I can't get it to settle right snug to the edge without going off.

If I can determine where the binder should actually be ( since we stick them with the blu tac, placement is always a variable.) ,then maybe I can go from there. Or any hints on getting everything going straight? I know it works, I've done it, I just got to get all the stars to align!
-- Edited on 7/19/13 1:13 PM --

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Hello my name is Lori and I have SMAD

my latest love is Pfrancie, my Pfaff Performance 5.0 (but can't put my Bernina 153QE away !)

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Date: 7/19/13 2:04 PM

I can't help you but I recently bought the Elna 945 and was thinking about getting additional feet. So this worked for you before?

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Date: 7/19/13 2:20 PM

Yes, I got the binders recommended by other PR'rs from ebay. I used the blu tac to stick the binder to the little table that attaches to the serger for coverstitching. It's been several years now, and I can't remember where I had it placed to feed the binding correctly.

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my latest love is Pfrancie, my Pfaff Performance 5.0 (but can't put my Bernina 153QE away !)

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Date: 7/19/13 6:26 PM

You have done it once so it is possible.
I have a Elna 945 too but have never used the c/s function
I have a c/s machine and use those binders binder set up
You can see that the binder is very close to the foot I am using the middle and R needles and the binder "edge" is positioned between the L and Middle notch on the foot. This position can vary slightly depending on the fabric. Once in postion I use blu tak and masking tape to hold the binder in place.

Just for your interest I have used the binders on my sewing machine too using woven bias with reasonable success just cant figure out how to do corners though.

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Wellington, NZ

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Date: 7/19/13 8:19 PM

I finished up my top. It got better, but I still have problems with the stitching wanting to either go off the binding on the left side, or go into the middle. Not sure if it's a binder adjustment issue, where I've got the binder attached the the machine (it appears to be where other photos I've seen of binders are attached) or just the way I'm guiding it all in. If I let the binder do the work, it'll veer one way or the other, unless I stop, lift up the pressure foot and try to encourage it in the other direction. Still frustrated, but will keep at it!

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Hello my name is Lori and I have SMAD

my latest love is Pfrancie, my Pfaff Performance 5.0 (but can't put my Bernina 153QE away !)

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Date: 7/20/13 1:21 AM

Lori it could be a combination of fabric type and how everything is feeding through. Some knits are more difficult than others. the naughty ones I can usually tame by using spray starch on the binding and on very floppy knits the body as well.Like most things practice makes perfect. a stylus might be useful to use to help guide the fabric to be bound into the binder.
Good luck

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Date: 7/20/13 7:54 AM

Can you adjust the presser foot pressure on that machine? I would set it a little lower and see if that calms the wiggle when putting the knit through.

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Date: 7/20/13 10:02 AM

Lori, I have answered your message, sorry about being late. I agree with the last two posts too, but, from my personal experience, having that special foot with the wall to the right of the binder Belinda talked about, will solve most wiggling problems.

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Date: 7/20/13 2:39 PM

The best binder I would think, really would just be welded to the toe of the foot probably, as then right there and close up and nothing being able to come unfolded or wiggle away after it left the binder and before the needle got to it. But next best I guess if you are using ebay binders and tape and blue tack, is to just get it as close to the end of the toe of the foot as possible.

All the real binders and folders they made to go with the machine (not the ebay generic kind of ones for the screw holes in any kind of machine bed instead) actually got fastened onto there, a whole different way, by using this curved metal piece that stuck out and gave you something to attach them to. See how it attached onto there, then went into a bent angle to give you some screw holes you did not have?

http://www.elna.com/en-gw/images_appendices.php?image=3#

and then so see how they just went on that attachment bar instead

http://www.elna.com/layout/images/appendices/96-bias_binder_attachment_resized.jpg

But see how that attachment guide and the way it worked, actually gave you screw holes, and the ones that you are missing just on the bed of the machine instead. Actually the attachment holder piece is even about the same one, that lots of Pfaff sergers use also.

So if taping or sticking other stuff, I would just try to get it about in the same place and really right in front of and as close to the toe of the foot as possible.

If you want to DYI I think actually getting way closer to the needle than the end of a long serger foot would let you do it, would work even better. To do that, maybe get and use a clear plastic foot instead and cut it or file it back shorter on part of the front toe piece, so your folder kind kind of even fit into it better, and even much closer to your needle. You might loose a little pull and effectiveness, of the feed dogs there, as if foot was shorter and not covering them fully in the front, but what you might gain in folded fabric control closer to your needle, might be worth it.
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