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choosing between new Passport or older 1475, 7510, etc.
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Date: 7/20/13 5:06 PM

I will be going soon to try both the PCP and P5, and the Bernina 710, 750 and maybe 820. Trying them at the same shop will help a lot, I hope. If I still choose Bernina, after a LONG talk with dealer/tech, and get assurances about the fixes for 7 series, I still want a Pfaff, for the IDT. Would you go for the new Passport, or an older Pfaff with more, but older, features? I would love to be able to buy both a TOL Bernina and Pfaff, but don't think that will happen any time soon. I've read about Pfaff going through some bad times when they were bought by Singer, would you avoid the machines made at that time?

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Date: 7/20/13 5:58 PM

If you are wanting it just for the IDT.. Then buy the new Passport. why buy the older models when you can get a new one.. I confess I have not the Passport.. nor read any reviews.. so first satisfy yourself that the Passport is a good reliable machine..

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Date: 7/20/13 9:55 PM

I guess I phrased that wrong, are there features in the older Pfaffs that you think are really worth more than having a new machine with less features?

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Date: 7/20/13 10:09 PM

The older Pfaffs have a much superior build to today's machines, but again, they are older. So this is something you must try out and see for yourself. And today's machines work well too most of the time. And what applies to Pfaff also applies to Bernina - not quite like they used to be, and to other brands as well.

That said, they are both good brands, and the only way to tell what is good for you is to go see them and try them out - it is all so subjective and there is no RIGHT answer! People have Berninas they love and people have Pfaffs they love, and people have trouble with one or two or more specific machines of all brands so there you go - you can always get a great machine or a lemon in most any brand and in more than sewing machines.

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Date: 7/21/13 1:37 AM

I have the new Passport and like it as a back-up machine when my Sensation is embroidering. However, the longest stitch the Passport will do is 4. I like the way it sews and the walking foot is always a plus. Go to a dealer and sit down and sew on the Passport for a while before you buy one. It took me a while to get used to it, but I like it now.

It does tend to run slow then gallop but you'll get used to that. All the the feet and bobbins are interchangeable between the Sensation and Passport.

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Date: 7/21/13 1:46 AM

The bobbins are NOT interchangeable. Almost all the feet are though.

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Date: 7/21/13 1:48 AM

Personally, I'd rather have an older model than the Passport. I had a Passport, and it just didn't feel like a Pfaff to me. Loved the lighting on it though.

Good luck making your decisions. They are not easy ones to make!

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Date: 7/21/13 7:42 AM

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I guess I phrased that wrong, are there features in the older Pfaffs that you think are really worth more than having a new machine with less features?

I probably phased wrong too..

I am a huge fan of the older pfaffs.. That being said.. as Mufffet pointed out.. they are older.. I was concerned with the issue of warranty etc.. and would hate for you to buy one that may not last very long due to age..

IF you are also adding a Bernina.. then I think by mixing the two machines.. you would get any or most of the features you are wanting .. some features on one machine. some on the other.. However as you know in the Bernina line you do have to spend some big bucks to get a lot of features..

Some people think the 1400 line of the Pfaffs were the best machines ever made..

And then there is the thrill of having a brand new machine as opposed to the worry of buying an older one that might die on you.. the 1400s do have that computer brain .. Hope this helps..
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Date: 7/21/13 8:53 AM

I don't own one but I've seen a zillion comments here about how fabulous the Pfaff 7570 is. Seems like anyone who's ever owned one can't part with it. Never heard anything before about the 1400 series.

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Date: 7/21/13 10:10 AM

From posts and reviews I gather the newer Pfaffs are beloved due to their embroidery features, IDT, longest stitch length and button holes.
I have a 90's era second hand Pfaff 6152. I wanted mechanical. There are times I just need a very long stitch length and superior button holes of any size and a machine that can handle any fabric. It has IDT and works better for garments for me. I had an adjustable foot pressure Bernina and a BL and both require starter cloth pieces on fine fabrics or knits- the IDT doesn't need that. I can start on the edge of slippery satin and it never gets sucked in.
I was most impressed with the quiet operation of my B430- it did what it did very well. Knits were a breeze. It needed help with jeans seams and button holes. I loved the snap on feet and throat plate.
But I love the function of the Pfaff feet for garment construction. B does not make a foot that has a clear plastic center with a thread slot which I found decreased my visibility when tailoring alterations. Quilters love the B feet, the knee lift and the needle up/down. I often prefer to end needle down but I can control that in my mechanicals through experience.

So much will depend on how you use the machine and how important the feet and computerized features are to you. I would never give up my mechanical for a computerized version. The computer machines to me are a compliment, not a replacement.

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