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Message Board > Sewing Machines > I need help!!!! ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Hamilton KZB zig zag sewing machine
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Date: 7/28/13 12:01 PM

The bobbin isn't catching I'm almost positive I've threaded it correctly and changed the thread and needle???? I'm lost I can't find a manual or anything on this....HELP please!!!

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Date: 7/28/13 2:38 PM

Which way do you have the needle facing? With my vintage zigzag the flat side faces right. So you would thread it left to right. Also, the bobbin needs to be in there so it reels off correctly. Turn the handwheel for the first few stitches to see if you got it right ;)
If I were you, I would download a standard ZZ manual. There are free copies.

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Date: 7/28/13 2:46 PM

This Yahoo Group has a free download of a generic manual that may help.

Generic ZZ manual...

The link works for me but I am a group member by having added it to my groups. I don't remember if I had to get moderator approval or not, but once you are in there is a goldmine of info to read and download...

Here is another labeled universal deluxe zz that has the flat side to the back.
Maybe you could tell by comparing the illustrations of the machine which is yours?
Click here...
Youtube of a KZB ZZ
From what I can tell in video, flat side to right.

-- Edited on 7/28/13 3:08 PM --

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Date: 7/28/13 3:21 PM

A "standard" zz manual isnt going to necessarily be of help with a Japanese machine of this vintage. There were essentially two "standards" used then for design, and they thread differently. If it is the same machine as that on the YouTube vid, then it is an "end-loader" whose needle seats flat side to the Right, and threads L to R.

The other option would be a "front-loader", whose needle seats flat side to the back, and threads front to back.

Jennifer in Calgary

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Date: 7/28/13 5:23 PM

I think it is probably a side loader and the pretty much the same machine as a White 404 sewing machine. So maybe just use the instruction book for a White 404 machine here, if what is in there, looks like your machine. But I think needle goes in flat side to your right, facing the fly wheel. Of course, some other things all have to happen too, like bobbin thread feeding off there in correct direction, a good needle, and even still having a sharp point on your sewing machines hook, to even pick up that thread.

But look at this and see if matches up, instruction and machine wise with all the knobs in same places and such or not:

http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/732_white-404,415,426-x.pdf

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Date: 7/29/13 4:03 AM

Thank you ladies!!! I'm going to look up the manuels tomorrow after I get off from work and see if anything helps...

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Date: 7/30/13 1:44 AM

Hello Summer79

Glad to meet you here at PR.

Wondering how long you have had your sewing machine and is the bobbin not catching a recent problem (is bobbin thread not getting "picked up" by the top thread)?

Been sewing heavy duty projects...or hit a pin?

Edited to add: This might help. I didn't download it to look at the manual, but hope it's a good manual. kzb zig zag deluxe


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Date: 7/30/13 6:44 AM

Thank you so much!!! No it's not bring picked up I think it may be the threading but I've only recently received this particular machine and was trying to get it to work!! Thank you for the link ill see if this one works!!

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Date: 7/30/13 5:05 PM

Have you successfully sewn on other machines? Did the previous owner state that this machine works? Besides incorrect threading it may be out of timing and need to be adjusted. Are you mechanically proficient?

There is precious little info online about this model. Could you post a pic of your sm?

For the upper threading maybe a tiny thread path hook has been overlooked.

I hope the link to that online manual is not a dud...sorry if it is!

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