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Bobbin thread mess help please
Laurasean
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Date: 8/6/13 1:25 PM

My machine keeps having an issue where the bobbin thread tangles and I wind up with a bunch of loose loops on the bottom and the needle jams. I am so new I have no idea how to prevent this. I clean out the bobbin area, retread and it happens again!!!

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Date: 8/6/13 1:30 PM

Check that your upper thread is in the tension discs.

And do you have the right bobbin for your sewing machine?

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Date: 8/6/13 1:49 PM

I also had this problem. It turned out to be a combination of several things because I had bought an old machine off Craigslist.
I had real difficulty sorting everything out until I watched a free Craftsy video called 'Sewing Machine 911'. She discusses some of the things that can go wrong with bobbins on three types of sm: front-loading, drop-in, and an older kind that loads on the left side. She approaches it from the viewpoint of a beginner and covers things that experienced sewists forget about. The teacher is very knowledgeable, but in the first couple of segments she's very nervous. However, she loosens up after a bit and the info definitely helped me. It's a free video and it's only about thirty minutes or so. Can't hurt to give it a try. Good luck!
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Date: 8/6/13 2:01 PM

That does just happen every time you try to sew, with no top tension on your top thread. So it will happen, if you try to sew with your pressure foot up, or if you miss thread the top of the machine, or if you by accident have your top tension device turned to zero instead of turned to the middle # there. Also happens often if you try to sew with non sewing machine thread like glaced hand quilting thread instead. Also helps to hold onto both threads, when you at first start out sewing, so they can't get pulled underneath the machine. So maybe check yourself, and see if you are doing any of those things wrong, just by accident.

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Date: 8/6/13 2:32 PM

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Also helps to hold onto both threads, when you at first start out sewing, so they can't get pulled underneath the machine.


Yup. Always hold those thread ends. Easy habit to build and it will never fail you. I do it on every machine, even the advanced ones that say you don't have to. Never forget - it's two seconds that saves you an hours grief.

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Date: 8/6/13 4:14 PM

The link Ubik made is a great resource...really nice to see what to do rather than just read it.

Lesson 5 at the beginning of the troubleshooting section is the part about thread nest causes and solutions. Craftsy Troubleshooting

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Date: 8/6/13 5:24 PM

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[QUOTE] Also helps to hold onto both threads, when you at first start out sewing, so they can't get pulled underneath the machine.



Yup. Always hold those thread ends. Easy habit to build and it will never fail you. I do it on every machine, even the advanced ones that say you don't have to. Never forget - it's two seconds that saves you an hours grief.

I third this!! This was a huge nightmare for me when first learning to sew, until a friend showed me. What a life-changing revelation! I don't actually need to do it on my newer machine, but I still do.

Another issue that might be cropping up... are you putting your bobbin in the right way? (Some machines' bobbins have an extra little ridge that makes this impossible, but most don't.) I finally had to put a label on my first machine showing which way it went, because I'd invariably stick the thing in upside-down. Some machines won't sew AT ALL if the bobbin is upside-down, some will sew a little and make a giant mess, and some will trick you into thinking everything is OK for a while before causing mysterious problems halfway through topstitching your most delicate, expensive fabric. Easy thing to overlook! (My current machine's bobbin cover actually has a directional diagram printed on it, which I find so helpful. Especially because it goes in the opposite direction of my other machine!)

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Date: 8/6/13 7:00 PM

Several people have already answered this. The problem is the top thread not the bobbin thread (unless something is wrong with your machine). Make sure you have a new needle and good thread. After you clean out the thread from the bobbin, make sure that rethread the machine with the presser foot in the up position. Make sure the thread is in the tension disk at the top. Make sure the bobbin is in the case correctly and pull the threads to the back. See what happens. HTH

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Date: 8/7/13 0:16 AM

omg, don't forget to take a look at the needle. I had no end of problems and I have a Pfaff Creative Sensation that allows for no end of abuse. But, it will not sew correctly if the WRONG needle is used.

What kind of fabric are you trying to sew? Over and over I sewed the same seam and never thought that there was a difference between a stretch needle and a ball point needle.

Are you having a problem with plain ol cotton fabric? Universal needle?

So many things to consider when there is a problem. Not like the 'old' days when you only changed a needle every few years instead of the way it is now.

Someone posted a very helpful site about what needle to use on what fabric. This may be a helpful site:

http://www.sewing.org/html/guidelines.html

sorry I don't know how to link. Good luck, don't give up.

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Date: 8/7/13 0:51 AM

If this is a mechanical machine that does not have the needle-up/down feature, make sure you use the handwheel on the right to make your needle up completely in the highest position before removing your fabric from the machine. It will then be ready to start again. Begin sewing your fabric just a little further down from the edge so as not to suck it down into the feed dogs. I have had many machines, both mechanical and computerized, and have never had to "hold onto threads" if I make sure the needle is all the way up when I am finished sewing a seam. It's an easy habit to learn, too.

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