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Message Board > Machine Embroidery > What could possibly be wrong with my machine/file? ( Moderated by Pyrose)

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Terrible monograms from seemingly good file
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Date: 8/21/13 12:51 PM

Here's a shot of my design in Embird: http://i.imgur.com/shCgCJv.jpg

Made this file in PEDesign from an image I made in photoshop. It's fill stitched with undersewing and is 130 lines/inch density with a 135 degree direction instead of a variable direction. It's a 4x4 sized monogram and all looks ok, right?

Here's it monogrammed on a sweatshirt: http://i.imgur.com/tvWwsWA.jpg

Gaps galore (over in the J for instance a rather large one) and what appears to be the undersew completely out of line with the rest of the design (right side of the J, right side of the A, right side of the top of the M).

Could the fabric be moving too much during sewing?

Could the needle not be picking up enough to clear the fabric? It's supposed to be going at a 135 degree angle but at the top of the A it looks like just a dotted line...

Is it a tension problem? Never touched the tension on my machine and it seems like this has just started... there's been a few others that have come out like this

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Date: 8/21/13 1:17 PM

Try with a topper to see if that will help to keep the black from showing through.

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Date: 8/21/13 3:15 PM

I suppose that may help with some of the smaller gaps but there's definitely something else going on with the machine

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Date: 8/21/13 11:14 PM

Is that metallic thread?

What stabilizer(s) are you using?

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Date: 8/22/13 4:35 AM

It's your embroidery design that you made. I can tell that by the first image, in just stitch only view, and then by the sew out in comparison. I think you have no built in stitch compensation for push and pull factors in there, that is what happened on the narrow areas, where the satin stitch, just missed the single running stitch underlay out line, and then on all the wider stain stitch areas you have none or the wrong kind of underlay. On the wider satin stitches areas, you actually always need some running stitch out line under there, all around near the outside edges of your objects to sew down first, as that would help a whole lot to stabilize your fabric, and also give that top satin stitching, a firm place to grab onto as it sews out. You might want some other underlay in there too. Also satin stitches don't work that great over maybe 6 to 9mm wide most times too, so measure your widest places.

That's not counting any stitch density issues, or stitch inclinations, or stabilizer under your fabric kind of issues. I'm not familiar with your particular digitizing program or to tell you how to use it, but look in there for and research things in there,called underlay stitch choices and stitch compensation choices and you will probably find some choices and more information on how to use them.

Best way to see how yours differs from a good one, is actually to find designs you like that are made well, and study them, as to how that person made them even. Then apply those concepts, to the ones you make yourself. So actually, every well made embroidery design you buy anyplace, is not only an embroidery design, but it's a little lesson for you too, if you want to use them that way.

Also go look at and sew out some nice existing satin stitch monograms, (maybe you even have some built into your sewing machine?) and notice how the statin stitches actual stitch inclinations do change often and curve around with the shape of the letters, so on those the actual satin stitch, stitch direction and inclination even, is going to be changing on and around every curve and even right every angle. Just pretty much like and the same, as if you were even hand embroidering it out instead, in case you know how to hand embroider.
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Date: 8/23/13 7:25 AM

Your machine is not the problem, IMHO. The solution is in the design and stabilizers. ITA with beauturbo's post.

Can you adjust stitch density in your software? Stitch Density will make the stitches closer together, thus closing the gaps.

I was thinking a white topper under it would fill in the gaps, too. That is the easiest band-aid fix.
The fabric looks like a knit, so you will need a topper of some type, whether clear (like Solvy) or white. We assume you used a ballpoint needle and cutaway stabilizer...





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Maybe it's my computer screen, but those look like satin stitches on the shot of your digitized monogram. Check the 'object properties' (what it is called in my software) in your software and see if it is satin or fill. If it is satin stitches, definitely check the stitch length in your software. I've never been pleased with anything over 5mm long in a satin stitch. You might have to change to a fill stitch.

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