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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Anyone use a ZZ industrial? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Anyone use a ZZ industrial?
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Date: 8/21/13 8:20 PM

I used to thread paint with ZZ machines - that is why I liked Pfaff machines - a few years ago they had more 9mm at better prices -

But, has anyone used an industrial to do thread painting in free motion before? Ive seen some industrial machines with a 12 mm throw - 12 mm at 3000 spm could paint some fabric pretty fast!

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Date: 8/21/13 8:28 PM

I think the Singer 20U had 12 mm. And maybe the Bernina 217 could be had that way. Never sewed on them other than after service stitch out.

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Date: 8/22/13 6:44 AM

If you had a Singer 20U with 12mm width, then you even have a choice of having your knee lever be to raise the pressure foot, or control your zig zag width. Having it control the zig zag width with your knee, leaving your hands free, would be good.

Go watch this guy, and see how he's doing it.

http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/3833/video-manuels-free-motion-embroidery-technique


That way he gets to keep both hands on the fabric and use his leg for width control at the same time. He is using a Juki and not a Singer, but same idea.
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Date: 8/22/13 7:08 AM

My 1950's Necchi Super Nova home machines were actually made with a hole in the front of the machine bed, (and even some other old Necchi's have the same hole in the bed) to supposedly do that with too and in that case there was supposedly a contraption, which was an extra order device called a "Necchi No. 905 Tapering
Device" that fit into that hole, as a several part metal extension piece for your knee, and had a joint on it, and a clamp that actually just attached to sliding thumb bight width lever on the machine, so you could use your knee, to do that, instead of having to have one hand on the width lever and sliding it.

I used to want one of those, but eventually gave up, I actually think they may not even have been really produced at all.

Unfortunate though, even though that "Necchi No. 905 Tapering
Device" was pictured as order-able item, and attached to a Necchi Super Nova, in some old 1950's USA Necchi/Elna Catalogs at the time, I don't think anyone had/has ever seen one of those things in person though. I kind of think maybe they were going to be sold, and then it did not work out, as they just did not work very good, or possibly they actually made some, and sold some in Italy, but never ended up getting into the USA at all back then. But sometimes when some attachment or such is hard to find, it also just really means it was not sold or not for very long, just even because it did not work too great even.
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Date: 8/22/13 12:40 PM

Great link - thank you!

He does really interesting things with the knee lift - I dont think I need that -- but I would love the speed.

I have tried a few different ways of FMQ with no foot on. His way with stabilizer and a hoop seems good!

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