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Message Board > Patterns and Notions > Size disparancy in patterns ( Moderated by Sharon1952)

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Size disparancy in patterns
Infant to Toddler to kid size
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Date: 8/26/13 4:17 PM

My daughter has now reached the weight where infant patterns no longer fit her. I loved some of them because they were so tried and true for a variety of things. She now needs to move into the size 2-4 range. The last couple times I have picked up a "toddler" pattern I was amazed at how bad off the sizing was. Her measurements equaled that of a size 1, or I made a 2 so she could fit into it. I am SO glad I made the size 2 because it came out so small in the waist. It was huge in the shoulders. I ended up having to take in 2 inches at the center back to make it fit her. I then tried a simple jumper pattern and made a size 1 thinking it would be smaller in the shoulders, the waist I could fudge since it was an empire waist. This thing was huge! Only 6 months later can she now fit in it and it not be a tent on her.
What gets me was these were ALL simplicty patterns.
Thinking it must be simplicity I moved over to McCalls and did a size 2 pattern out of that. This one was still huge compared to the specs. I ended up just using the size XL on a baby pattern but I'm not sure how long she will be able to wear it.

What is bugging me is that what is a size Toddler 1 says to correct should match what a size 12mon pattern should be, but isn't. The same where a size 2 toddler should equal a size 2 kids, but they are not. The measurements on the packages are the same but when it comes to actual fit. Very different.

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Date: 8/26/13 6:24 PM

Toddler's are supposedly drafted for a diaper butt. I have always used a smaller size for my children, grandchildren and great grands, I just lengthen where needed. One child needed a size 4 jean pattern (girls) and I hadded 12 inches to the length so she would have jeans when she was in the 3rd grade. My one neice needed the width but not the length as she was a tubby girl - all rosie cheeks and red gold curls! The best patterns are the ones from jalie that have size two to whatever all in one. I makde my great grandson underwear recently and he needed the "xxxs" and he's almost 3!

As for fit, the different companies have what they call "ease" and which is what I call two or more inches too big!

The old Kwik Sew was the best, if you can't get some of them, Jalie is good and the old stand by of old patterns from Stretch and sew!
-- Edited on 8/26/13 6:25 PM --

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Date: 8/26/13 11:39 PM

It's hard to measure a toddler, compare a rtw garment to the pattern. I did that with my kids. I can remember one of my dds wore a 2 with a 4 length.
I also used lots of stretch&sew and kwik sew. It's fun to use the same pattern for my dgd that I used for her mother.

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Date: 8/26/13 11:55 PM

I agree with the recommendation of kwik sew and jalie. The best thing about toddlers and small children clothing is that you can quickly fix the sizing issue (realise it is too big) and move on to fix it or cut another.

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Date: 8/27/13 7:04 AM

Using a pattern from one of the big 4 companies, I made a night gown for a granddaughter when she was 3 or 4 and she had to wait two years to wear it.
So after that, I asked her mom what RTW size she took and then I looked online to find a size & measurement chart for RTW and used that to help choose a pattern. The girl is slim, so I can usually get a pattern that is one size smaller than her RTW size and then add two inches or so in length. If I use a pattern that is not overly fitted this has worked OK.

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Date: 8/27/13 7:59 AM

When my kids were newborn thru elementary school I sewed for them using Burda mainly. THe sizes are by height in centimeters, and I don't remember having to make any adjustments. My DD was very slender and DS was chubby, but the height measurement worked. HTH

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