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Message Board > Fitting Woes > Amazing fit 2700, bah humbug ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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How do i fix these drag lines
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Date: 8/27/13 4:07 PM

I cut a 14 slim on the front and a 16 slim at the back for inseams, 20 at the sides and came in 1.5"(!). I have not use the darts as are such a small amt.

I have scooped the rear a bit as I am 6' tall and the instructions for choosing inseam lengths was not helpful for me. Scooping helped and I am try a bit more to get a not so snug look (although DH likes as is)...

I apologize for using striped fabric for the muslin, I realize it may be hard to see what I am talking about.

Side seams are spot on, but how do I get all the extra fabric out from the back of the leg? And what is wrong with the front crotch area when I do not do my super hero pose??

I added 5" total to the length and am not sure if that is creating a problem, I am not used to having pants that are long enough!!














Drag lines on front


Back view with too much fabric in leg

Side seams spot on

Super hero pose with decent crotch
-- Edited on 8/27/13 4:13 PM --

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Date: 8/27/13 4:51 PM

It may not be the cause of all your problems but your side seams(at least the one we can see) appears to slant. It appears to start about and inch or two towards your back then angle towards your front and it levels out to be truly vertical someplace above the knee.

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Date: 8/27/13 4:57 PM

The Amazing Fit series have 1" seam allowances to allow for fitting, which would explain how much you came in. To adjust them, pinch out where the wrinkles/whiskers are and make those changes to the pattern piece, then check the fit again before cutting the proper fabric.

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Date: 8/27/13 5:23 PM

Mgmsrk1 - i see what you are seeing now. I guess I would take in the front side seam by a half inch to start and let out the back side seam....

In looking at the pics and playing with the fabric it almost seams as if the fabric is trying to make its way towards the crotch area on both back and front but can't as there is too much fabric (vs pulling due to too little).

Does this make sense?

I measured my legs and then the pants and I have about 10 inches design ease. Maybe on my frame this is too much.

I was thinking about taking in the inseam in 1/4" amounts and see if that does anything. On the flat pattern Maybe moving the crotches a little more towards the sode seam as to take out the extra leg fabric?

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Date: 8/27/13 7:19 PM

Yes, to your description of how to fix the side seam.

I kind of wonder if you need the larger sizes for the back that you cut since it seems like you now have just too much fabric at the seat and upper thigh.?

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Date: 8/27/13 8:48 PM

Can't give any real help as I'm not a fitting guru, but, seriously, that are not that bad. They need some fixin', such as the top of the side seams goes toward the back (as has been mentioned.)

When you fit a muslin, you should (1) wear shoes, and (2) shorten the length to where you will wear them, or a bit shorter. Yes, it can make a difference.

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Date: 8/28/13 1:51 PM

I am no expert (AT ALL!!!) :)

But I've made several muslins and one finished pair of these pants. Using their guidelines, I cut an 18 front and 20 back the first time around. There were lots of issues and in the end, I liked the pants but didn't love them. I've work them twice and am very blah about them.

So I decided to try again. I cut a straight 16, removing some height at CF (didn't need it) and adding a little bit at CB (in both cases tapering to nothing at the outseam). I also added an inch to the length.

I sewed 3/4" side seams instead of 1" and they fit near perfect.

I agree that you need to quasi hem them and wear shoes as that changes the look. And I agree that your side seam is slanted.

But I think you should hang in there!!! You're not really far off from a good fit.

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Date: 8/28/13 2:21 PM

I think a similar pant fit situation came up on a previous thread. Lena Merrin had one suggestion for a fix on page two, but I'd read the the whole thing to see if the symptoms apply to you and the pattern. Your mention of the 'superhero' pose made me remember this.
Pants back horizontal lines

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Date: 8/29/13 4:44 PM

Thanks for all your feedback!

I tried taking in the inseam crotch area about a half in right at the point where everything meets and I think it really helps. Which is probably a flat butt adjustment.

I also tucked a about an inch of fabric on the left front side up into the zipper area, so that the zipper (which I just lobbed in and did not do the best/perm job) flipped 180 degrees and is now facing my body instead of facing out (does that make sense?)


Front of adjusted pants


back adjusted view

I think that I now need to mark a few things, pull entire muslin apart and resew it:

-Adjust side seam a bit towards the waist
- Recut front fly/crotch area to move/make use of the extra inch of fabric on the left front.

- Resew and then see if I need to adjust the crotch for the "flat butt" adjustment which would be: mark crotch adjustment and resew making sure notches on legs match and that I stretch the back inseam to match the front inseam. I realize after reading Sandra Betzina's POWER SEWING last night that I do not think I did that.

And I wonder if my thin fabric muslin is just doomed on some level due to it being so light weight on a pants pattern....

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Date: 8/29/13 4:54 PM

These are really quite good. I agree about moving the upper side seam towards the front. Not all the way down, but maybe to just below the pocket. I think that the back is a little tight at the upper hip.
You need to try the pants on with shoes and the hem folded up to the correct length so your pants can hang correctly. I would try pinning out a dart at the inseam just below the crotch and disappearing at the side seam. This helped me with the same sort of crotch issue. The same would have to be done to the back at the same point. Or, if it's not that much just stretch the back inseam to meet the front.
I think that your adjusted back fits worse than it did before you adjusted it. It looks like you need to add some more length in the cb seam.
As far as too much fabric in the leg, I think that you would be better off trying a different pattern that has a slimmer fit. The
crotch shape and length is somewhat different in a narrower pant.
-- Edited on 8/29/13 5:00 PM --

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