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Date: 9/13/13 1:02 PM

In a few months my family is moving from a major metropolitan area to a very remote location. I do a lot of sewing on a computerized Babylock machine. Once I move, my nearest dealer will be a six hour drive away. I am seriously considering getting a mechanical as a back-up, because if anything should go wrong with my Babylock, it could be a while before I get it fixed. So far the machines I'm considering are a vintage Bernina 830 or a new Bernina 1008.

Any thoughts about the merits of one machine over the other?

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Date: 9/13/13 3:25 PM

I don't know anything about the 830 but I have a 1010 which is a lot like the 1008 and it's as solid as a rock. Even though I have some nice computerized Berninas I keep it because it's so solidly reliable and will go through anything.

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Date: 9/13/13 4:00 PM

I might have to look at the old 1008's and 1010's now, too. Did you buy yours new or used?

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Date: 9/13/13 4:01 PM

Have you tested the 1008? One merit is the 1008 will come with a warranty.

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Date: 9/13/13 4:13 PM

Would you want to consider a backup machine that has more in common (i.e., can use the same feet, bobbins, etc.) with your Babylock? Or maybe the Berninas mentioned can do that....

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Date: 9/13/13 6:34 PM

I've sewn on several Berninas and tested the 1008 a few years ago. I got the Babylock because the Bernina I really wanted was not in my budget. One of the draws of Bernina is the feet, so I don't care if the back-up can use my Babylock's feet. Also, the Bernina mechanicals have a reputation for being reliable workhorses that last a long time and have few problems.

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Date: 9/13/13 6:36 PM

I have tested the 1008 and liked it, but I miss the knee lever that the 830 has. The 830 seems like a better machine since it was TOL in it's day, but the peace of mind of buying new is also something to consider.

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Date: 9/13/13 8:11 PM

if you can't take advantage of a warranty, the 830 may be a better bet. plus, the knee lift is very useful.

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Date: 9/13/13 10:40 PM

If I wanted a old Bernina 830 and found one someplace and was considering taking it to a very remote location, before I scooped it up, paid for it and did that with it, I think I would open the top of it on it's hinge and at least look at that plastic cam stack gear right in front of the real all metal cam stack. Just since I would want to know if that was cracked or starting to be cracking first, before making my decision on it. Other than that, maybe not too much to even ever go wrong with it?

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Date: 9/14/13 1:52 AM

In 2003 I purchased my Bernina 1008 and to this day I still love it. At that time I was replacing a computerized Viking that had bit the dust, and I was not happy about computerized machines. I used the 1008 exclusively until 2009, when I purchased a computerized Brother because I was sewing more and missed the features of needle up/down, one-step buttonholes, and some deco stitches, etc.

HOWEVER... I still bring out my faithful 1008 to sew jeans hems or other heavy fabrics, or just because I want to sew anything on it because I miss it. It sews 1,050 stitches per minute which is pretty darn fast for a home sewing machine. It's a smooth ride, a great stitch (especially topstitching) and an all around awesome machine. When I bought mine, the dealer had ordered dozens of them for the schools in Sacramento. They are practically indestructible, which is why schools and prisons use these machines.

That said, I was so tempted to purchase a vintage 830 not long ago from the same dealer I bought the 1008. It was in great condition and had so many feet with it that I could also use on my 1008. So, I did a ton of researching. I found out that the 830's foot pedal goes out and could be expensive to replace. The cams are old and can break. The oiling of the 830 is more extensive than the 1008, which is just the shuttle area only. Also, over the years I have purchased the sturdy Bernina feet one at a time to where now I feel I have everything I need.

I have only taken the 1008 to the shop once, and that was for a general cleaning and tuning. I was having trouble with the stitch not being "perfect" as I was used to. In the end, all I really needed was a new bobbin case. I do not miss a knee lever because I don't quilt. I am a garment sewer and use "needle up" on my Brother Innovis-80. That is one thing I don't like about the 1008, you have to use the hand wheel to manually put the needle to it's highest position before taking out your fabric, or you will have a problem. But, you do get used to it.

Here is an honest review from Gretchen Hirsch "Gertie", a sewing blogger and featured sewist on PBS "Sew It All", who owns a 1008. There are pros and cons, but to me the pros outweigh the cons.

http://www.blogforbettersewing.com/2012/06/my-bernina-1008-two-years-later.html

Good luck on your purchase, whatever you decide!

Oops - just checked the Gertie link and she has changed it to something else. But the August/September issue of Threads, #168, features her sewing room and she does still have her 1008.
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-- Edited on 9/14/13 2:21 AM --

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