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Date: 9/28/13 7:15 PM

I'm trying to dye 100% cotton a light grey, by using a highly diluted black dye, following the mfr recommended proportions of dye to water. The resultant color is the right intensity, it's even (no splotching) but it looks like a pale lavender...meaning there's definitely a purple-ish tint to it in natural light. How can I get a truly light grey color? Thanks
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Date: 9/28/13 7:22 PM

You need to use a specifically grey dye, not black. Black dyes are not true blacks, they are really just very dark combinations of other colors that usually lean slightly toward a particular color - usually blue or purple. So when use dilute the black dye, you will see the colors that the dye is really made of. OTOH, grey dye will give a grey tone at different dilution. For cotton, I'd use a fiber reactive dye like procion if you can.

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Date: 9/28/13 8:15 PM

I agree with Nikki. I often use dark colours diluted to get the softer base colour underneath. My favourite one to use is Jacquard's Chestnut Brown! I get lovely soft pinks and purples from it.

This week I've just dyed some felted cream wool a lovely pale silver grey by using iDye Silver grey.

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Date: 9/29/13 6:37 AM

Thank you both, Nikki and Sarsez.
Have ordered some Procion in 3 different shades of grey from Dharma....will give it a try and let you know what happens.

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Subject: Im dye-ing to get the color right Date: 9/29/13 9:34 AM

Are you planning to overdye your cotton? The purple will still show through if you do...

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Date: 9/30/13 8:21 AM

I've gotten good results with the grey dyes from Dharma--for a stage set thing (hmmm--stone table in Narnia??), I needed to dye cotton with a fiber reactive dye and wool with an acid dye. Both worked fine.

I once threw a silk scarf into a black (fiber reactive) dyebath that was primarily for cotton things, and it came out mauve-ish. "Aha!" I thought, "That's why they say you can only use acid dyes for black on silk."

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Date: 9/30/13 4:13 PM

Nikki, I have only a little experience with dyeing, and I wonder if you could help me with an overdyeing problem:

I have a pure linen knit tee in a blah, washed-out orangish, canteloupey color (almost identical to Pantone 17-1545), and I'd like to darken it to something in the wine/burgundy group.

I know that a Fiber Reactive dye is indicated, but it's hard for me to wrap my brain around dealing with darkening the odd original color to an appealing shade, something more interesting than, say, dark brown, or on the other end of the scale, a bright red-orange (which would probably be easy, right?).
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Date: 9/30/13 4:31 PM

Color remover (available in the same places that dyes are) might work to remove the original color before you start over dying it, so you can start "fresh."

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Subject: Im dye-ing to get the color right Date: 9/30/13 5:04 PM

Sometimes color remover works great, other times weird things happen (I've seen navy blue discharge to bright orange, for example). It is best to test a swatch, but that is tricky with a finished garment.

I'm not an expert on color blending. My method is to consider where the current color is on the C-M-Y color wheel, and where the final color is on the same wheel. Orange is mostly yellow with a smidgen of magenta. Burgundy is mostly magenta with a maybe a tiny smidge of cyan and a dose of black to get the deep color. So if you try to use a burgundy color dye, you are going to be adding magenta to yellow (= red) plus black (= dark red) plus a bit of cyan ( red -> brownish/muddier).

If the current color is relatively pale, you might end up with an ok color not too far from burgundy. If the current color is strong enough that the yellow has a stronger effect on the final color, then it will tend to be more muddy and closer to a true red, it kind of depends on what actual dyes are in the "burgundy" dye mix. You might have better luck directly adding true magenta dye and some black dye, but it might end up more dark red and less burgundy.

Or at least that is my guess...

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Date: 9/30/13 7:12 PM

Brenda and Nikki: Interesting--and complicated! Lots of guesswork involved in this kind of thing.

Thank you both for your ideas.
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