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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Shopping for a machine...exhausting!!! ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 10/1/13 7:10 AM

I would love to walk into a Dealer, see some pre-loved options with pricing and w/o the haggling. I understand that Dealers need to make a profit, etc but buying a machine...new or pre-owned is exhausting...but sometimes I just want to shop without the stress, the up-selling, price haggling . I always wonder if the pre-owned gems are hidden in the back.

I am yearning for a new combo but until I can pull the trigger on the purchase, I just ask for the MSRP.

Sandy

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Date: 10/1/13 7:34 AM

Read the reviews here on the machines you like and you can get an idea of what others paid for the same thing. It can really vary but at least you're able to see lowest and highest so that can give you some idea of what is reasonable. It does infuriate me that its now common practice to not have prices posted on the machines. You ask price and they have to go look in a book and often SHOW you the book....as though they believe you want to confirm the truth of their statement. If you're not willing to play the game, you don't get the better deal but sometimes thats just not worth the effort.

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Date: 10/1/13 7:53 AM

I agree. It can be unnerving trying to get the best price. I have finally realized that I just shop the dealer and then the machine. I found a dealer that I trust and just ask what the lowest price would be. Usually I can get 20% off the MSRP. She always offers support and free classes which I appreciate greatly. As for used machines, I keep her on the lookout for what I am looking for and have been happy with my 'second hand' machines. Even though I own TOL machines, I have found that some of the features, esp. on embroidery machines, are just useless to me. So I look for a trade in that the dealer has been servicing all it's life. Enjoy the hunt!

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Date: 10/1/13 10:31 AM

my recent pre-owned purchase came from just letting my local dealer know I was interested in getting into machine embroidery; a few months later I had a phone call stating he had something and I did end up purchasing it. I second using this forum to discuss, as I had great feedback on the Bernina 640.
I think pricing can really vary based on your market, supply and demand will drive that alot, and dealer's seem to have alot of wiggle room.
If you are in the greater Chicago area, I believe Linda Z's has an actual "outlet" location with pre-owned machines, and they carry several brands.

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Date: 10/1/13 12:05 PM

I pick a good dealer and stick with him/her.

Are you asking for a used machine when you walk through the door? Or, call and ask to save the wear and tear on the shoe leather.

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Date: 10/2/13 7:24 AM

I must agree. Imagine walking in and seeing machines with prices and information about features! How wonderful that would be! In fact I did see that once in CA- loved it and bought my machine on the spot!

We all have different personalities. It is very difficult for me to ask prices and haggle. I am not trying to find a deal better than anyone else and I do want dealers to make enough money to stay in business. As much as I hate car shopping at least the sticker is in the window with price and features. Not so with most machines.

I have to wait for an available person then ask for price and usually listen to a fairly long spiel about features or why it's a good deal and then they tell me that they need to get someone else to tell me the price so I am again waiting until that person is free. Well that person usually looks at me like I just wasted her time to ask, say thank you and thenleave.

I know most folks don't feel the least bit guilty to tie up someones time but my time is very precious to me. More so then money. I have a number of health issues and only can leave home on my best days. I don't look disabled and I am sure the store sales people never consider that some people do not love shopping!

I just wish they had the brochures and prices with every machine and that I could browse and not have to wait for someone which can take 20+ min at some of these places. Then wait for someone else- or be asked to come back because that person isn't available. Add to that the hours of riding (& my husband's time too as the driver)

While it can be fun if I have the energy to enjoy a machine test experience, it is exhausting to have to visit in person to get local prices and takes me about 8 mo to be able to fit in 3 dealer visits between health issues.

I am just relieved that I have 3 wonderful machines now and the search is over.


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Date: 10/2/13 11:31 AM

We must be spoiled consumers here---we have 3 major brand sewing machine dealers here in Santa Rosa, CA.

All three dealers have signs displaying the prices next to all the machines they sell. The signs usually say the MRSP price, and what they are willing/selling the machine for. New---and used machines all have prices placed next to the machines. And they will still give you even a better deal than what is on the signage or offer perks regarding feet, accessories , etc.

Love all our local sewing machine dealers!
-- Edited on 10/2/13 11:31 AM --

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Date: 10/2/13 11:51 AM

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We must be spoiled consumers here---we have 3 major brand sewing machine dealers here in Santa Rosa, CA.<

Yes you are spoiled! LOL!

That is a very good thing though.

Where I love there aren't a lot of machine dealers at all, never mind many brands to choose from.


Although there are probably more now than when I first started looking, I just have been satisfied with mine for so long I stopped looking!

I found new machine shopping to be mentally exhausting also.

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Date: 10/2/13 1:14 PM

I called our large dealer once to ask the price on a new Bernina that was just out, and you would have thought I was asking for her firstborn! What's up with that? I ended up going in at some point and getting a Brother instead.

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Date: 10/2/13 2:21 PM

yes! I was just going to say how delighted I was with the Pfaff dealer and the big bold prices being up. The Bernina guy has more info posted but on a small card you to have to pick up and study. I hadn't noticed that the Babylock place posts prices but I'm usually there because it's the best place to buy thread. But no complaints, you're absolutely right. We have great dealers and my husband and I go see Jim (the Bernina guy) just for fun.

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