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Date: 10/3/13 12:43 PM

What are the differences between the Bernina 440 & 450?

I can buy a new in the box 450 for $1800 plus shipping or a barely used 440 for $1600 locally. Both have a walking foot and a BSR.

Or I can travel over an hour to the nearest Bernina dealer and buy a new 530 for $2000 cash plus tax.

Yikes, how do I compare and decide?! Bernina owners, please help me with this.

Thanks bunches!

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Date: 10/3/13 12:50 PM

carrie,
I can't tell you the differences because I've never sewn on a 4-series machine. But, I own a 530 and really love it. Besides, the price you're getting of $2000 is amazing. I paid $200 more for mine last year and I had to really work with the dealer as she wanted $2999 for it.
I'm not sure but I think the 4-series are discontinued models and have older technology if that's important to you.

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Date: 10/3/13 12:51 PM

The Bernina 440 has a 5.5 mm feed dog width with the CB hook system. The 450 is a 9 mm rotary hook machine. They are both discontinued machines. The 530 is a 5.5 mm machine without embroidery capability.

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Date: 10/3/13 12:57 PM

440: 5.5 mm CB hook
450: 9mm Rotary hook
530: better lighting CB hook

Will the new in the box 450 come with the full factory warranty? Is is coming from a dealer? Warranties do not transfer and are for the original buyer only.

Both prices on the Aurora's (440/450) are really good especially with the BSR included. The 530 does not come with it and it is around $900 new.

I've sewn on both the 440 and 450. Both produce beautiful stitches and are easy to use. I have never sewn on a 530.

Keep in mind dealer support is very important if you have issues. Parts can get pricey if you don't have a warranty. If that doesn't matter to you, I'd go with the 440 or 450 just because I think the Aurora line was excellent.

Here's a Comparison Chart that you can compare the 450 to the 530. The 450 has a lot more stitches.

Best of lucky in choosing!!

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Date: 10/3/13 12:58 PM

I would wait and try the new B560 machine, which will be available shortly. It has optional embroidery module.

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Date: 10/3/13 4:58 PM

I have owned a 450. Wonderful machine, beautiful 9mm stitches. I currently own a 430, which is also a very nice machine. And I have owned a 530 - which was great, I only sold it to upgrade. (yes, the sewing machine shuffle has been active in my house the last few years ) The prices you are quoted seem very good, if they have a warranty and dealer support.

That said, I much prefer the 5 series. Better interface, much much better lighting, and there is no comparison with the memory features. 5 series is much better with memory functions. Like Lynn, I would wait and look at the 560 since it is a 9mm machine and can add embroidery in the future.

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Date: 10/3/13 5:01 PM

Thank you all of you for giving me your input!!!

I am not interested in embroidery at this point, so that part doesn't matter. I do need to think about the various features, warranties, store help if any, etc.

Does anyone know how to tell how much use a machine has on it? Someone somewhere said one can tell the total number of hours or stitches a machine has. But how can I tell that? Here's why...

I'm leaning towards the loaded used 440 except the seller has no clue how much it was used. She bought it from a Bernina store for $2,500 and was told it had one owner - nothing more. She hasn't used it at all in the years it's sat in her closet. I appreciate any input you Bernina owners can share!

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Date: 10/3/13 5:07 PM

Have her take it go a tech and he can tell her how many stitches the machine has done. Could be few or a lot more than you were hold.

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Date: 10/3/13 5:11 PM

Hi Diana,
Thank you for that chart! It is a super tool!! I was wondering about the warranty on the new in the box 450, and had asked about it. Just got the answer... He is a Bernina machine repairman who was owed $ by a Bernina dealer who went out of business. The dealer couldn't pay him and gave him the 450 instead. He says the warranty is good, but only in Canada.It's a still a new machine from 2011 that's in an unopened box.

I have dumb question... why would I want a 9mm versus a 5mm and along those lines, what is the difference/benefit of having the CB hook over the Rotary hook? I have much to learn!

I like your tagline Bible verse. He is my light too! :-)

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Date: 10/3/13 6:09 PM

CarrieKaye - The 430 I currently have sat in its box in my daughter's closet for four years. When she sent it to me, I could not turn it on. It needed a new L Print board - between 150-200. My tech told me that his 430 did the same thing. It sat for a couple of years, the L print board was dead. I don't know if this happens when they sit, and neither did my tech, but I would caution you to make sure the machine turns on and all features work before you buy it.

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