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Singer 70 or Brother CS6000i?
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Eredien
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Date: 10/6/13 8:23 PM

I am trying to choose between a Singer 70 (Joann 70th anniv. special, like a Singer One but has more feet and costs less money) and a Brother CS6000i.

I already have an old and beloved Necchi BF which sews leather, denim, etc. with a straight stitch but I am looking for something that can zigzag, has buttonhole and decorative stitches, etc.

I have heard mixed reviews on the Brother machine but it does have a lot more built in stitches and I can get it for a little under $150 from amazon.

On the other hand I have also heard mixed reviews from the Singer One--cannot find ANY reviews of the Singer 70--but if I buy it at JoAnn's for about $200 it comes with $75 worth of feet including a walking foot and free classes in how to use the machine.


Ideas? Thoughts? The special on the Singer 70 is only available through the 19th and I am seriously considering it.

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Date: 10/6/13 11:24 PM

The Brother had needle up/down which I use all the time. I have the singer 160 which was a nice machine but I missed the up/down feature. The Brother is a nice machine for the money. The harp is not as big but it does come with a table. You will get more decorative stitches with the Brother. You are limited with the Singer 70 and since you already have another machine for basic stitches that is something to keep in mind. The 70 is pretty, however.

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Date: 10/7/13 1:09 AM

Between the Singer and Brother, I would choose the Brother. Singer does not have the reputation it once did, however a cheap Brother may not be so great either. Can you wait awhile and save up to get a better machine? If you spent around $400 you could get a Brother PC-420 which is loaded with features for the price. Or if you saved a little more, you get an Innovis from a dealer with warranty or a Janome or Pfaff...or whatever that will last you a long time. When you are ready for a new machine I know it's hard to wait...I really do...but you get what you pay for.

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Date: 10/7/13 6:22 AM

If you really like your Necchi BF for straight stitch a lot, you might even also have fun with an old 1950's Necchi Super Nova- it does zig zag, and sort of lots and lots of unlimited decorative stitches with cams you can stack up different ways yourself and even create more stitches. The automatic buttonholer for it, is I think not very good, but you can still make button holes with the zig zag. A 1950's machine, but it was probably at least 20 years ahead of it's time, even way back then, and might feel nicer to sew on than those other two and would still outlast those other two by probably many decades.

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Date: 10/7/13 6:36 AM

Quote: Eredien
I am trying to choose between a Singer 70 (Joann 70th anniv. special...

...but if I buy it at JoAnn's for about $200 it comes with $75 worth of feet including a walking foot and free classes in how to use the machine.

...special on the Singer 70 is only available through the 19th and I am seriously considering it.

JoAnn's online price is $250...but you can get it for about $200? Is that an in-store price? Does your JoAnn Fabrics have a demo to test sew on?

I'm not finding any reviews on it either. Since you are seriously considering it...maybe ask if you can test sew on a display model...and/or check out the return policy if you get one...just in case it's doesn't bond with you.

Besides a walking foot...it also has the buttonhole underplate...sounds good. IMHO...get it from your own local JoAnn's...instead of Amazon...got to love having machine lessons and bonus accessories/feet.

Maybe ask about it specifically on the Singer appreciation thread here on PR...might get more info from the members who all have Singers. Singer Seventy
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Date: 10/7/13 3:38 PM

I purchased 4 Brother CS6001 machines to teach sewing. I ran all 4 through the paces - worked them hard and after almost a year they are holding up great even under the abuse of beginner students. I love them. I went through 2 cheap singers in no time and won't touch them although my mom's 1949 Singer hums along great but it's a heavy little thing, not the plastic things they make now. I have a 6 or 7 year old Brother NX 600 with lots of bells and whistles and she is my goto workhorse but these are close. Go with the Brother. You won't regret it.

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Date: 10/7/13 3:39 PM


I purchased 4 Brother CS6001 machines to teach sewing. I ran all 4 through the paces - worked them hard and after almost a year they are holding up great even under the abuse of beginner students. I love them. I went through 2 cheap singers in no time and won't touch them although my mom's 1949 Singer hums along great but it's a heavy little thing, not the plastic things they make now. I have a 6 or 7 year old Brother NX 600 with lots of bells and whistles and she ias my goto workhorse but these are close. Go with the Brother. You won't regret it.

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Date: 10/9/13 12:11 PM

Hi Eredien,

In my mind, the only advantage of the new Singer 70 over the Brother CSXXXX series is that the former has a metal inner chassis, has a bit more harp space for larger hands and it's noticeably prettier. They've both got about the same shuttle design, foot selection and motor power & control.

Since you've already got that Necchi stump puller, I'd recommend the Brother, though; since you won't need the extra durability of the frame. The Brother has done fine for me unless I sit on it. Yeah, I lost my balance once and sat on it as it was in the chair next to me. I had to kinda flex it back a teeny tad; not an easy thing to do, but it's fine, again. I'm lucky I didn't bend all the doodads on top - seems to me that most mid-line and lower thread guides and winders are flimsy.

I tout older all-metal machines all the time, but I really don't think the chassis would flex and affect stitching, although that's the theoretical failure that we ponder. Maybe if you were doing an 18 needle and punching through 9 or 10 layers of denim...But all my stitches in light-medium stuff were as good as other sub-$500 machines I've used and I'm thinking of putting one of the 9XXX on layway at WallyMartoni.

If I had to stay with Singer under $300, I'd do the new 7258 (eight), 7467 or 7470; and in that order. The 7258 is just a 7/8 or 3/4 machine, but it's got "goodies" like the Brother (also a tad smaller) and a nice motor and controller. That high pitched sound is the switching of the motor circuit and it means, "I'm happy and accurate :)" The Brother is that way, too, but they've either matched the components well or changed the wind of the new motors to reduce noise quite a bit.

The Brother has more stitches, more needle control and costs $100 less. You can roll it up in a towel or little fleece warmer or a couple brown paper bags and toss it in the trunk, no worries. Now, I've also got several Singer 7XXX machines 'cause I like the near-box-feed for doing bias-on-bias seams, but their housings sound hollow and knocky and I'd want to put them in a case to throw in the car. The way I rush around, that's an important thing.

I have to admit, the Singer is way more attractive and taunts my utilitarian approach to things. I'm moving into more tailoring issues of late, trying to address style for it's own sake and would probably get one of those, or the "1" or "160," if I had those easy spare $$ floating around.

I don't think Singers are bad buys, but if you're going to stick with sewing, the Brother would put you in a better place to evaluate the features of more advanced and expensive machines. It seems that we all end up looking over the fence as time goes by ;P

Happy Hunting,
Gene

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