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Date: 10/8/13 0:00 AM

The shank broke on my 1962 Elna super and can't be repaired. Have been using this machine for decades. Only does straight stich and reverse straight stitch now. Looking for new machine and Jukif600 does not have a start stop button (needed since iam disabled). Considering the Janome 6600 but have read poor reviews. Not looking to spend over 2K for machine. The brother that is comparable to this is 4K.

Seems awkward to use plastic bobbins and not be able to pull up bobbin thread although the fact it knots and cuts it is awesome. Need blanket stitch and free motion quilting would be nice too. Purchased lower end brother machine at Costco. It did work and did what it said but working with this machine was like eating on paper plates compared to glass plates (returned to Coscto). Not familiar with Viking. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Date: 10/8/13 1:48 AM

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The shank broke on my 1962 Elna super and can't be repaired.


I see that you want a machine with a start/stop button...but with that aside...why can't the Elna have a new shank to replace the broken one? Such as this one: Elna Presser Foot Shank (low)
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Date: 10/8/13 1:57 AM

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Jukif600 does not have a start stop button


The F600 does have a start/stop button. Its the large button with the 'up' arrow just above the presser foot/needle. It only works when the foot controller is unplugged.

I also find it hard to believe your Elna is beyond repair. Try contacting Ray White at White Sewing Center

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Date: 10/8/13 3:19 AM

Link to video Juki F600 stop/start button: Click here

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Date: 10/8/13 8:54 AM

Are you looking at Pfaff. The QE 4.2 has a start /stop, IDT and free motions easily and you should be able to get a sale price of $2000.00. However, my Elna 740 (I think same as 6600) is my go to machine for FMQ.

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Date: 10/8/13 10:59 AM

Howdy HotDog,

Shanks, take up levers, feed platens, etc. can be petite (micro) welded by one who welds aluminum on a regular basis. They have the smaller feeders and current ranges for this. Of course, they're not welding aluminum, but they historically have the equipment and expertise to do that; and I've had them do work for me.

It's an uncommon multistep process of welding and grinding, maybe touching up and grinding, again. These guys are fantastic and watching them work is like going to a ballet about machining and forging. Remember, don't look directly at the spark area.

An alert, proud and up-to-date stainless steel welder can do it, too. Of course, a jewler that does hard pewters can also do this, but it's really pricey. That's not to take anything away from them - they've studied and practiced to be well paid for their skills.

Now, whoever does it, the temper will be gone from the pieces but will still last a few years - well worth it in my mind. You can pay a little extra and ask them to oil temper the pieces and that will harden them a little bit. Without the actual composition markers from when the parts were made, it will be nearly impossible to recreate the proper temper, but it will be good enough either way for some more use.

Definitely a project, maybe a bit too pricey unless you _really_ want the unit for some emotional reason.

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Date: 10/8/13 11:02 AM

You may not find anything that "feels" like 1962.

Go to as many dealers as you can find and ask to test drive their various models with the stop/start option. These will be electronic and doubtful if any have the vertical bobbin configuration you are use to.

Be open to the to using the drop-in bobbin models. They are very easy to work with.


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Date: 10/8/13 11:36 AM

I have two Pfaffs that use plastic bobbins. One is an older 7570 in which the bobbin is vertical, inserted from the front. The other is a Creative Performance in which the bobbin is horizontal, inserted from the top. I just turn the hand wheel and pull up my thread on both of those before I start to sew. I don't know if that is what you mean - but I would imagine you could do that with most machines.

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Date: 10/8/13 11:45 AM

I'm really confused. A 1962 elna it's self does not have a stop and start button at all. I could see it having a knee control though. If it was old and green, and did straight and zig zag, I can't think of any shank that could break, that would make it just stop zig zagging and still only straight stitch instead. Maybe it's really not as broken as you think? Or if you liked it so much, maybe you would really like just as much, a really nice a bit newer, blue and gray 1970's kind of Elna SU, also no stop button, but it would do free motion and blanket stitches with the cams?

A drop in plastic bobbin is not really any different (in how it works) than an older elna metal drop in one. I think on all machines that have any kind of round bobbin, you can always put the bobbin in, and thread up the top of the machine, and then hold tail end of top thread, and pull up the bobbin thread. That is always your choice if you want. Some may not force you to do that, (more fancy gizmo's) as maybe there is some thread end holder there, instead, but you don't have to use that, it's an option, you can always instead do it the first listed kind of way.

I think you just kind of have to sit down and sew on things to see what "feels good" to you on each machine. All those stop and start buttons feel awkward to me to use, but some are better than others, probably just where they are placed on the machine even.

Have you seen this place,(P.I. Engineering)they have some neat stuff (really large switches and stop and start buttons, custom input devices) that could probably be rigged up to work with a whole lot of sewing machines.
http://www.xkeys.com/

If you don't want to feel like you are sewing on a "costco paper plate" on a brand new machine with lots of computerized stitches, I think you should try sewing on a elna 7200 or 7300 or equivalent Janome machine. Even though computerized with hundreds of stitches they are very large and rectangular, and also just very heavy because the whole base of the flat bed is still made of metal, and they do have a knee control for raising and lowering the presser foot, if you want, and at least that would leave you both hands free for fabric and hitting some start or stop button. Maybe try sewing on one of those and just see how it feels. I think something like that might feel to you, to sew on, sort of the best of 1962 combined with 2013, actually, but you would just have to try to see.

My machines range from about mid 1800's to current, and really each one "feels " different to sew on in lots of ways, so I think you just got to sit there and test sew on all of them, no matter what they are, and then when one "feels right" to you, you do actually know it, or not, within about 5 min or so, or even way less.



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Date: 10/8/13 10:33 PM

There are a bunch of great reviews for the 6600. I have had mine for a year and a half and love it. I bought it partly based on the great reviews I found from many users on here. Many new machines use the plastic bobbins-I am not a big fan either but you have to use them. I think there is a Brother in that range and several Babylocks too. Pfaffs are nice but not sure if there is one in your price range that will have all the bells and whistles you want. Machine shopping is both fun and frustrating. Have you gotten to look and test drive any machines? I think every brand has something I would want. I went with the Janome because I liked it the best-it just felt right and it has been a great machine. Several people have also purchased the 6300 or the 6500-very similar platform to the 6600 without the accufeed and with fewer stitches.

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