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Date: 10/11/13 11:35 AM

Can anyone compare these two threads for me? I embroider almost solely with Isacord, but I recently heard about Magnifico being an excellent thread. How do they compare? Is one thicker than the other? Is the sheen about the same?

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Date: 10/11/13 12:19 PM

The thickness seems to be about the same, but I think the Magnifico is a bit shinier, which may or may not be desired. Both threads stitch beautifully well.

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Date: 10/12/13 8:59 AM

Both brands are 40wt.

Here's what Superior Threads has to say about Magnifico:

"After many years in development, we now have a polyester thread that has the high sheen of trilobal and the strength of filament polyester. It is a high tenacity (strength), high sheen trilobal filament polyester called Magnifico. Magnifico is unlike any other thread. Here’s why:
Magnifico consists of four main strands of thread. Each of these four main strands consist of 48 high strength micro-strands. Two 48 micro-strands are twisted together into Set A. Another two sets of 48 micro-strands are twisted together into Set B. Then Set A (total 96 micro-strands) and Set B (total 96 micro-strands) are twisted together to make the final product. Magnifico is a thread made of 192 high-sheen, high strength micro-strands. The result is a strong, bright, beautiful 40 wt. thread ideal for quilting and embroidery.
200 colors
•Available in 200 colors.
•TXT & TCH files for embroidery machines available. (Link to the right)
•Ideal for embroidery and quilting.
•High-sheen allows the thread to reflect color vividly and clearly.
•Unlike many other high-tenacity trilobal polyesters, Magnifico is 'heat set' in processing which eliminates shrinkage.
•Magnifico consists of 48 micro filaments x 4 ply (2 ply x 2 ply), for a total of 192 micro filaments resulting in spectacular sheen and strength."

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Date: 10/13/13 8:51 PM

Yeah, I've seen the advertising, I was just hoping for some personal experience.

I know they are both 40 wt, but I have threads of the same weight that are drastically different so that doesn't seem to mean much.

Good to hear magnifico is shinier. Direct comparison is what I was needing. It's too expensive to buy and ship a cone without knowing if it will work for me.

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Date: 10/13/13 9:25 PM

I use Magnifico for my long arm quilting as well as embroidery. It is very shiny, very strong, and seems to be "rounder" in diameter shape so it seems to give a little dimensional shine if that makes any sense. I think the extensive plying makes for the strength and roundness. Superior Threads has "Try Me" spools where you don't get to choose the color but it comes at a lower price. The web site is full of good thread information. It is worth looking into the "Education" part of the site.
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Date: 10/14/13 8:34 AM

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The web site is full of good thread information. It is worth looking into the "Education" part of the site.


I love the superior website. I've spent a lot of time on it.
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Date: 10/14/13 8:45 AM

I love it too. If you (or anyone else here) hasn't watched the Thread Therapy DVD, it is really well worth the time. It will answer nearly every thread issue one might have.
BTW, I have used Isacord extensively and it works really well in my Berninas and other machines. Haven't used Magnifico much yet.


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Date: 10/14/13 9:41 AM

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I know they are both 40 wt, but I have threads of the same weight that are drastically different so that doesn't seem to mean much.

There is no industry standard on what "40wt" or any other "wt" means across manufacturers. There is an industry standard, the Tex system.

I have seen Isacord listed as Tex 27 here. Superior lists Magnifico as Tex 30, so they are very close.

That being said, Magnifico is a very round thread which not only affects its sheen but affects how it fills a satin stitch.

I was working on a little project this weekend using a lot of different threads for decorative stitching, all poly and listed by the manufacturer as "40wt", and it was very interesting to see how differently they behaved. I would show it to you but last night I put all the threads away and now I can't remember which one was which. Maybe I'll repeat some of it on a sample just for fun...

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Date: 10/14/13 9:58 AM

One more thing, and this is truly a nit, I really like the 1000m mini cones that Isacord is available in (and Floriani too). Superior only sells stacked spools and giant cones (a Magnifico cone is 3000m).

Yes, I am setting the stacked spools up so that they pull off the side, but the whole spool has to turn. At the speed of embroidery or FMQ if the spool hangs up at all as it's turning it can cause little tension glitches. I'm using the Superior thread holder which works well, but still doesn't feed nearly as well as a cone.

Since I must have all the colors, I'm collecting the Magnifico cones. But they're expensive and they take up a lot of room. Doesn't stop me from buying them, but I really wish Superior sold a 1000m mini cone rather than the 500m spool.

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Date: 10/15/13 9:02 AM

Thanks- that is a really good note about the cones/spools.

I am actually going to be buying the Magnifico for a quilt project- so I will likely get the 3000m cones, but I know I won't use the whole thing, so I wanted to make sure it would work for embroidery.

Maybe I should just stick with Isacord. I can get Superior wholesale, but the place I buy my Isacord at is so cheap, the price isn't much different. I just liked the idea of 'really shiny"

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