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Date: 11/3/13 10:49 AM

I just found this YLI thread chart. If it isn't already a sticky, it might be a good idea to make it one. The chart describes the thread Tex numbers which could be confusing to newbies (and even oldies, too).

Thread sizes and weights for home sewing machines.

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Date: 11/3/13 11:53 AM

TEX was a discussion some time ago at PR. I seen haven't any reference to it since then. Previous discussion

Some may agree with you. However, beginners are already hesitant as is and, my personal opinion is that I do not think this needs to be part of their decision for ordinary sewing.

I buy thread for the type of craft I will be doing; hand sewing, machine quilting, machine sewing and machine embroidery. Garments, home and outdoor accessories.

The only time TEX came into the picture for me was when making sailboat accessories and the thread was already selected by the company selling the special supplies needed for the project. They could have called it UV/saltwater sailboat accessory thread for all it mattered.



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Date: 11/3/13 7:38 PM

I use the Tex system because I buy industrial thread. Outside of that, I have no reason to know anything about it.

Now...even with the chart, go figure out why standard machine thread is 30 tex and serger thread is considered 27 tex.

Even within this system, they aren't always standardized across the board. I buy TEX 30 at one place, and at another it's TEX 35. It's supposed to be the same size, and it probably is (both places list this as "standard sewing machine thread suitable for home machines).

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Date: 11/3/13 8:43 PM

Out of all the years I've been sewing, and that's been since the Pleistocene era, I've never worried or even bothered to care about Tex. That was something that was brought to my light, however dim, just a few years ago and I'm too old of a dog to start with it now.

That being said, the chart is useful for when I go thread shopping and I'm curious about the terminology. Also, I've found thread charts are more conducive to specific thread manufacturers and I don't like having to pay special prices for 'special" thread.

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Date: 11/3/13 9:20 PM

I'm probably one of the oddballs that would actually use this so thanks for posting.
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Date: 11/3/13 10:29 PM

What I had in mind when I linked to that chart was Wawak. If you type Tex in their search window, it will download 100 pages of Tex numbered threads........mind boggling. Even if you didn't type in Tex when you wanted to access their threads, they also describe their individual threads with a Tex number. So, when wondering about a particular thread with a tex number, I thought the YLI thread chart would come in handy. So there.

Aside from the chart, I wish the industry never would have switched from cotton wrapped poly thread to all poly. I was never afraid of running a very hot iron over cotton wrapped poly thread. I know Wawak still has it, but it's in limited colors. I haven't done this yet, but I know, I just know, if I used an all poly thread on a 100% woven cotton fabric (think men's shirtings that get starched) that the hot iron would eventually melt the thread, or harden it. Yes, I know, if I'm that concerned, then I should only use 100% cotton thread with 100% woven cotton fabric, however, there's a color matching problem there as well, as cotton thread isn't available in a huge variety of colors. From what I've read, cotton thread isn't as strong as cotton wrapped poly, either.
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Date: 11/3/13 11:42 PM

I have never had poly sewing thread to melt or deteriorate. If heat were to affect the poly, the cotton wrap would not keep it any cooler.

I agree with Miss Fairchild...If it ain't broke, etc.

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Date: 11/4/13 0:51 AM

I usually buy my thread from Wawak and they list the TEX number on all their threads. I did not know what it meant...now I do! Thanks for the information. I have printed out the booklet for future reference.

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Date: 11/4/13 5:38 AM

Thanks for reopening this thread and posting the chart. Beginners come in all stages. I grew up on cotton threads and natural fibers- left sewing as knits and novelties entered and returned overwhelmed. After initial frustration I longed to understand about the unique interactions of modern threads, needles and fabrics.
They really do respond differently to a hot iron over time. Cotton softens, poly doesn't. There's a reason poly doesn't withstand microwaving and cottons don't withstand bleach.

The cotton wrap did have its place in a heavy starch, hot cycle, bleach wash. I am guessing the use dwindled because todays fabrics disintegrate well before the threads holding them together- thin and pill and limpy.
People mostly don't buy for 10 years suits anymore, they go for seasonal fashion. I'm one of the oddballs.

Mettler makes a good line of cotton colors in regular and light weights. I just ordered some standards Wawak cotton weight last month. Got heavier cotton thread from Connecting Threads last Jan. Have ordered a few spools from Prescencia in various weights to try.

Took me a few years to get a good handle on which needles go with which fabric & thread situations so now its time to return to a deeper study about the thread component. I'm still stuck in organic fabrics for the most part so that narrows my study field a bit- thankfully as they are quite a bit more costly than needles!

Thanks for the first posted link- it is non biased to any one company and references the many thread types. The Glossary is quite helpful and the section of matching needle to thread makes sense.
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Date: 11/4/13 10:50 AM

Thank you for your link to this brochure. This is a very confusing topic, and this information is good to have as a reference.

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