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Subject: Singer 9960/9970 Lettering and General Date: 12/9/13 6:14 PM

in the market for a new sewing machine. My 9yo daughter has been asking for one for some months now, so doesn't smell like a weak, passing want. Been doing some poking around research. The Singer 9960 is certainly jumping out at me, especially as it has a cyrillic font included, and the daughter is fluent in Russian and English.

Manual seems to say the font size can not be changed, however. Is that really true? What about the 9970?

9960/9970 seems miles ahead of the 30yo+ White mechanical workhorse we have in the house. That machine has guts, but it is a fair pain to use and get going, especially for little projects.

9960 is available at decent pricing, and 9970 barely available at not as decent pricing. What little I've seen mentioned, the 9970 sounds more powerful, but unsure that is worth the premium at the moment. Any other notable differences?

From walking thru the info I've found, seems like a 9yo should be able to use the 9960. Am I missing something? Is it a fair match for her to take local classes with? Is it forgiving of beginners?

And yeah, quite possible I'd use the machine myself for some heavier work from time to time. But being a guy, it would have to be for manly things, and the machine couldn't officially be mine That old White came in handy doing some things like outdoor speaker covers, fishing rod covers, and a little upholstery in the past. Hence I wonder on that 9970 perhaps being more powerful. Not sure any of these home machines could handle milspec nylon webbing, but more power is usually betterer in my mind.
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Date: 12/10/13 3:34 AM

The shopping channel HSN has an exclusive on the 9970 until after the end of the year...or so it was announced on HSN. Also to find it on HSN can be difficult as it is not listed as the 9970. Here is a link: Singer 9970 at HSN

At HSN the 9970 comes with an amazing array of included accessories...and Flex Pay as well. (NAYY...Not Affiliated Yadda Yadda)

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Date: 12/10/13 9:01 AM

Buying it is the least of my concerns, but Amazon is a lot cheaper than HSN. Either place, however, is cheaper than the last fishing reel I bought,,, so it's all good.

Mostly I want some clues on whether it seems a decent fit for trying to cover the span between little girl beginner, and occasional heavier duty work.

And whether the 9970 is better than the 9960.

And whether there is any control on the font sizes. The manuals seem to show none, but I know that often people discover limitations and capabilities not shown in manuals.

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Date: 12/10/13 2:48 PM

I think your daughter would probably have a blast with it, and like it, and have lots of fun with the all letters and combining them in with fancy stitches, and she's probably not too young for it at all, if shes been asking for something like that, as long as someone showed her how to use it. Maybe you might need to carry it for her, if you want her to take a sewing class someplace though, as 9 year olds are sometimes not that careful with things like that, and I think if she drops it, and it hits the floor, it's probably toast at that point.

It has a maximum 7mm stitch width and needle swing, So 7mm tall on a letter in there, would be as big and tall, as any built in lettering could even get. So that would just be the physical limitation on it.

I'm sure it's not a "good span" between what your daughter might make clothes wise though, and you sewing upholstery and a bunch of military style parachute nylon straps though. Cloth speaker covers and maybe a fishing rod cover I think you could get away with, and maybe just "share it" with her for that, and in case you wanted to put some letters on something not too thick, then just have your own machine that is more suitable to what you want to do instead. Then when she is a bit older and if she wants to sew the kind of stuff you do, then she can borrow your machine (what ever one you got) for that instead maybe. So I think you do need 2 very different machines no matter what.

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Date: 12/10/13 3:55 PM

The letter and number stitching is preset in the machine.
Here's a video on the letter stitching.


9960 Video

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Date: 12/10/13 3:56 PM

Sorry I did not address your questions. Still don't have an answer about the font sizes.

There is a PR member who has both a 9960 and a 9970 and does youtube videos on those and various other brands/models.

Maybe some other member who can personal message KCurtis to ask about the font sizes would do that for you. I can't either as also not a Friends of Pattern Review (paying member).

Here is one of his videos on the 9970: Singer 9970 on youtube by Kev Lee (KCurtis on PR)

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Date: 12/10/13 4:02 PM

You could get the 9960 for your daughter and put the money you saved on that towards something like a Sail Rite for yourself.

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Date: 12/10/13 5:20 PM

Thanks all for replies.
Guess I'll target the 9970. The difference in $ between that and the 9960 is trivial, so I may as well.

I actually have a ton of thread around,,, at least 60 colors or so, mostly of the big spools of poly embroidery thread (I collect them over time in making fishing rods). So I guess a bunch of bobbins, various needles, and classes at JoAnns would pretty much wrap up the daughter's present.

Pretty sure for my own usage, that speaker covers and rod covers would work out just fine, after seeing a video of the 9970 sewing multiple leather layers.

For the few times I've played with thick webbing, I've used rivets and a hand awl for sewing. Be interesting to do it on a machine, but then that would probably be something approaching commercial hardware, and not a great cost/benefit ratio for the number of times I've wanted to do it. Of course with the new fancy machine around, I could see if that old White has the guts to do it.

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Date: 1/9/14 4:58 PM

I am late to this thread. I was notified about it Myra ( aka bestgrammy?) on one of my youtube videos.

If you decided to go with the 9970 I hope your daughter is happy with it.

The 9970 includes the ability to mirror some patterns. Otherwise, the machines are virtually the same. I personally like the overall design of the 9960 better. However, the ability to do the additional mirroring stitches on the 9970 could be a critical feature if you love doing decorative stitches. When it comes to sewing on both machines they are identical in stitching quality etc....

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Date: 1/10/14 8:54 PM

So, are you now saying that the 9960 can go through the same amount of layers as the 9970?

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