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candlemoon
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Date: 12/22/13 12:53 PM

I am looking to upgrade my 20 year old Janome 9000 that sits in a Horn Quilters Dream cabinet. The newer sewing/embroidery machines appear to be larger than the cut-out space in this cabinet.

Wondering what table is being utilized for machines like Brother Dreamweaver and how you like them.

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Date: 12/23/13 5:57 AM

My main complaint about the Koala is about this same issue. The only way a large machine fits through the cut out is with the free arm exposed. Like most companies, they make a free arm custom cut insert to level the exposed free arm with the cabinet table- perfect for quilters at home.

Not so much if you are embroidering or transporting your machine to classes or construct clothing that rarely needs the free arm exposed. I fall into all those categories. And a serger the size of a BL Evolution or Ovation will not go through that cut out either.

So really, a more common sense option is to use a standard desk or table or counter or island at the height that you want. And either cover it or store it below in a cabinet or shelf. Because you can not use the airlifts to move those machines out of sight below unless you futz around quite a bit inching and moving slowly- or take off and put on the embroidery modules and accessory trays before and after lifting them up and down.

I was quite disappointed to discover all this after purchase. My Koala now houses my mechanical Pfaff and Enlighten. They go up and down quite easily but $3,800 is a high cabinet price for those basic machines. My Ellisimo sits on a repurposed old dining table and my Evolution sits on an vintage sewing table. Quite the reverse!

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Date: 12/23/13 6:36 AM

I should add about the embroidery. For a while I did keep my Ellisimo in the cabinet with only the free arm exposed. I thought I could adapt. It was a pain to have to put the accessory tray on and off for classes or to not have it attached with everything needed easily available in side. But the most annoying part was dealing with the Embroidery Module. When I brought up the Ellisimo on the Air Lift, that air lift shelf is not perfectly level with the table top.

It is designed to be just slightly below the table top so that the insert can be placed into the grooves and be perfectly level. The insert is level with the table top, not the air lift tray. So if you want to embroider, the machine (sitting on the airlift after being raised up) will be about 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower than the table top. That means the embroidery unit cannot be slid onto it- the machine is too low. So you have to remove the machine from the airlift, put the table top insert into the groove and then put your machine on top of the cabinet to make it level and stable. Now you can attach the embroidery module.

This only applied to the larger machines. I also have a Sofia2 and that can ride easily up and down on the airlift even when the accessory tray or embroidery module is attached.

But I have the Sofia2 in a travel bag right now. I haven't decided if I am keeping it or not until after I take my classes. I might sell her and keep both of my Ellisimos. One could stay in the Koala with the free arm exposed and the other on the dining table with the Embroidery Module attached.

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Date: 12/23/13 6:49 AM

I just noticed your member join date- Welcome to PR! This week may be slow due to holiday so if you don't get more replies, please post again. You will gather quite a few more opinions on this, I'm sure!
Also check out the Sewing Spaces board- lots of ideas of what is bring used as cabinets. I had a custom made children's desk set done in my old house. For $400 per desk I got the exact height, width, depth and number of shallow and deep drawers put in on either right or left side.
Yes, my new Koala is higher grade and impressive looking but those 4 separate desks functioned far better, formed a nice U shape and came in at half the price!

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Date: 12/23/13 7:54 AM

I noticed the same drawbacks for the tables to fit the larger machines. To work around this for my mom, who is petite, and needs her workspace lower than most tables will go, we got her a tabletop from ikea with the adjustable legs that go down as far as 23". This was actually the perfect height when her new Juki F600 was placed on the table. Her legs fit under the table, the knee lift works properly, and she can have the machine and accessories all available to her for a very reasonable price. I think the total for the table and legs was about $85.

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Date: 12/23/13 8:33 AM

I bought this one a little over a year ago. I'm using it for my Bernina 830. It will also fit my Dreamweaver.
These cabinets are absolutely top quality and beautiful.
Check out their website and, if interested, give Patrick a call; he's super helpful.

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Bernina 830LE - Brother Dreamweaver VQ3000 - Bernina B530 - Janome 6600P - Pfaff 1209 - Babylock Evolution - Janome 644 - Babylock Sashiko2 - Babylock BLCS-2

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Date: 12/23/13 10:06 AM

Welcome candlemoon! Glad to see you have some proper answers to your question before I pop in with my silly one. My brain often reads things literally and my first thought when I saw your message was : well, she is going to need a REALLY large machine if she wants to sew furniture.

I often post early in the morning before I have finished my coffee.

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Date: 12/23/13 10:52 AM

I love the uniques. If you don't mind sharing what was the total price for the cabinet and were you able haggle a bit. Im concerned as the manufacture is far away and I can not see it for my self.
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Date: 12/23/13 11:03 AM

As many can imagine I drool over beautiful sewing cabinets but at the 3000 to 4000 range have been hesitant to make a purchase.
Functionality and flexibility are my first concerns.
I have Berninas front loading machines
What I ended up doing is quick and inexpensive I bought an IKEA desk that has the T Legs that are adjustable and put my 750 on it.
I took a sheet of 3/4 inch foam core and cut with a small exacto knife an L shape which fits up against the free arm ends and hugs the back of the machine. I place the extension table over the the foam core.
then I cut from the left over foam core a few strip the right hight to make it the right height and flat. I now have a huge area to sew on.
I set the T Legs at the right height for me to sit comfortably. Which is about 25.5 inches. With the extended foam core table it is a total of 29.5 inches high.
This all cost me 130.00 when I want to embroider with this machine, I put it on a heavy solid desk, which is also in the room.
At some point I want to construct a table all of solid wood and cabinet grade plywood, so I don't have to move the machine for embroidering. The only reason I do is I think the IKEA table vibrates slightly when the machine is going full speed. (though I was told not to run it at full throttle when embroidering

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Date: 12/23/13 5:49 PM

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When I brought up the Ellisimo on the Air Lift, that air lift shelf is not perfectly level with the table top. It is designed to be just slightly below the table top so that the insert can be placed into the grooves and be perfectly level. The insert is level with the table top, not the air lift tray. So if you want to embroider, the machine (sitting on the airlift after being raised up) will be about 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower than the table top. That means the embroidery unit cannot be slid onto it- the machine is too low. So you have to remove the machine from the airlift, put the table top insert into the groove and then put your machine on top of the cabinet to make it level and stable. Now you can attach the embroidery module.


Hi SandiMac - I remember you talking about this before, but now reading this, I think you should talk to the dealer who sold you the cabinet. This is NOT how the cabinet should be as mine does not do this at all! I have a Koala SewMate and I have my Ellisimo Gold in there. When I want to do embroidery, I just raise the entire lift up, slide on my embroidery unit and start embroidering. My machine and embroidery unit are perfectly aligned. I don't need to move it off the air lift at all. When I want to sew, I just remove the embroidery unit, lower the machine a little, and put the custom wood insert in so I have a flat sewing surface. There are instructions for adjusting the electric lift, so maybe that's what needs adjusting. You have the DualMate, right?

What you described for the Koala cabinet and Ellisimo is completely not normal. And I went to dozens of stores and shows that had Koala cabinets before purchasing. A majority, if not all, of them had either the Ellisimo or the Brother Quattro in the cabinets and they all worked as they should.

I love my Koala cabinets and would buy them again and would also recommend them. They are truly functional and definitely offer multiple configurations.

Jim
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