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Date: 2/1/14 2:56 PM

I have a BL Ellure Plus that I've had for just a few days. My bobbin thread is showing through significantly.

I've tried these in various combinations:
* changing the bobbin thread and embroidery thread
* rewinding the bobbins
* changing the bobbin case
* using different material (both with a stabilizer)
* different designs, letters, etc.
* changing the embroidery tension from -8 to +4, in various increments, and in various combinations with the other troubleshooting
* using compressed air to blow in the threading channel
* checking around the bobbin case for lint, etc.

It sounds like adjusting the bobbin tension isn't the best idea, so I stopped short of that.

I called two shops - both said bring it in. However, the nearby shop would charge me, and the far away shop where I bought it is having a sale, and isn't likely to want to help when there are many customers. I also don't want to spend 1.5 hours driving if there is a simple fix.

Are there any options that I've missed?

Thanks!

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Date: 2/1/14 5:23 PM

You have pretty much covered all the easy fixes. The only other one I can think of is running a length of dental floss through the thread path to dislodge any threadlettes or lint that might be messing up your thread tension.

Did the machine do this when you first took it out of the box?

As sorry as I am to say this, seeing that the machine is so new, you may want to take it in. There may be something a little off that the tech can take care of, or there may be a defect with your machine, and you may need some serious work, or replacement.

It's bad when you are excited about a new machine and it doesn't work right. Stamp around your sewing room a bit and say bad words, then go have a cupcake.

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Date: 2/2/14 1:38 PM

Ok, I made a fresh start today and took it to the WAAAY beginning...and discovered that I had been missing a step in threading the bobbin! Doh!

I had tried out the embroidery at the shop, so I figured it was user error.

I just did my first pattern, but it got chewed up and stuck at one point - the design had gone over the same section many times. Is that something I can fix with a double layer of stabilizer?

Following a friend's suggestion, I'd starched the material, used spray adhesive, and then lightly ironed it together. I was using a muslin material.

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-- Edited on 2/3/14 8:08 PM --

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Date: 2/2/14 2:23 PM

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Stamp around your sewing room a bit and say bad words, then go have a cupcake.



Trying to make sure you have nothing screwing up the top tension is where I would start.

Also... you said you moved the tensions from the negative to the positive... that means (I'm 90% sure of this - check your manual) that you are tightening the top tension. Which means your top thread is going to be more likely to pull bobbin thread to the top. I haven't had to mess with mine... but seems to me the electronics of choosing that tension would be applying the changes to the top tension - not the bottom.

If you are embroidering... what thread do you have in the bobbin? And did your machine come with a different bobbin case for embroidery? If it is like my Ellisimo... the machine came with one bobbin case with a green dot.. and (theoretically) you should not have to ever change the tension on that one.. use it for sewing.

Some people use the green dot one for embroidery, too. I haven't even tried that.. cuz I was taught to use the other bobbin case for embroidery and "if it ain't broke - don't fix it" and mine's been behaving so far.

So... if you have the second bobbin case... don't be too afraid of messing with the tension screw on it. If you wind up having to bring the machine in, the tech can fix whatever you goof up on that one.

Start by putting your machine's tension back to 0, though...

Then try it to see where you're at... and make sure you have the bobbin inserted properly and you have caught it (the bobbin thread, when pulled, makes the bobbin spin counter-clockwise, right? - just makin' sure )

Are your stitches looking ok when you sew? Or are they goofed up then, too?

I'll check back in a bit to see how you're doin'.

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Date: 2/2/14 2:27 PM

Quote: brendergrrl
Ok, I made a fresh start today and took it to the WAAAY beginning...and discovered that I had been missing a step in threading the bobbin! Doh!



I had tried out the embroidery at the shop, so I figured it was user error.



I just did my first pattern, but it got chewed up and stuck at one point - the design had gone over the same section many times. Is that something I can fix with a double layer of stabilizer?



Following a friend's suggestion, I'd starched the material, used spray adhesive, and then lightly ironed it together. I was using a muslin material.



Thanks!!

Oooops... my bad... I wrote that last response before seeing that you had come back and you had written the second post!

So... glad to hear it was a bobbin threading thing.

Be sure to have a new needle - which is designed for embroidery.

Where did you get your design from? If it seemed like it went over the same spot waaaaay too many times... you might have to rack up the problem to a bad digitizing job.

Want to be clear on your last statement... so are you trying to embroider on a muslin fabric? Or are you using muslin as the stabilizer?

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Date: 2/3/14 11:12 PM

My last post was kind of out of order ...

Problem solved; I missed a small step in threading the bobbin. Thought I was doing it right; checked it; fixed it. Embroidering up a storm now!

I was using muslin, and then a stabilizer. The pattern embroidered rather thickly in one area in one color, and then came over it again thickly with another color. It's a shame, b/c it's by far the best looking design that I could find. Just contacted the seller, and she will revise the pattern.

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Date: 2/4/14 3:47 AM

Try stitching out some of the built in designs as test projects. They are well digitized and should stitch evenly. If anything looks wrong, I always go back and test with a built in design. I have the same machine and love it for both sewing and embroidery. I have never had tension issues, but always use Finishing Touch or Brother 60 Wt. bobbin thread when embroidering and good quality poly thread when sewing. For quilting I stick with Aurifil or the new Madeira Cotona which are both low lint cotton thread. The correct needle for the fabric makes a huge difference also. Check out the Schmetz Needles Learning Center for some great guides. They also have a needle app for iPad and iPhone. They are still working on the Android version

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Date: 2/4/14 4:06 AM

Quote: brendergrrl
I was using muslin, and then a stabilizer. The pattern embroidered rather thickly in one area in one color, and then came over it again thickly with another color. It's a shame, b/c it's by far the best looking design that I could find. Just contacted the seller, and she will revise the pattern.

Hi,since you are new to machine embroidery,I like to suggest to read this recent PR topic on how to tell whether or not a design is well digitized.Maybe it will help you next time,before you buy other embroidery designs online. I never buy embroidery designs from sites I can't try out their freebies first.

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