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Date: 2/2/14 10:00 PM

I'm making a dress for a little girl. She's a size 4 tall. She's a tiny little thing (doesn't appear lanky at all), so I'm not sure if the "tall" is a normal modification or if it's for modesty's sake. I'm also worried about sizing, since adult patterns don't bear any resemblance to RTW. At any rate, I'm just wondering how many inches to adjust this pattern without actually having her measurements. I'm making the Oliver+S Birthday Party Dress pattern, and it says the length is 22 5/8" finished measurement. Is this even something I can do without her specific measurements?


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Date: 2/3/14 9:47 AM

I am not familiar with a size 4 tall... usually with kids sizes you go up a size when they are too tall for a particular size, as little kids clothes aren't generally very fitted. Sometimes there will be slim or husky/plus sizes... Which makes me think that maybe because she is tiny, she needs the length of a size 5 or 6 and the width of a 4? My limited experience with Oliver +S patterns is that they correspond pretty well to RTW sizes.

I think her height and, if you can get it, waist circumference measurements, would be helpful. Usually the alternative is measuring garments in her size, but you would have to find out where size "4 tall" is sold...

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Date: 2/3/14 11:12 AM

A couple of years ago I made a flower girls dress. She was wearing a size 6 in RTW. I had to use a size 3-4 for her in patterns. She was tall and lanky too. It is just like sewing for an adult-where does she need the length? If her torso is long, then she made need length added to the bodice or some above the waistline. If her legs are long, then you may just need to add to the hemline. I am tall and have to add both places usually. Cute dress. I don't know how the Oliver+S patterns run but you will need her measurements.

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Subject: Little Girls Size 4 Tall Date: 2/3/14 11:36 AM

I don't think I'd attempt it without her measurements! It could end up very "off."

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Date: 2/3/14 11:58 AM

From my experience, I've found Oliver+S patterns run true to size. There is not a huge amount of ease, like the 'Big4' patterns, and if anything, Oliver+S have a fairly narrow fit, much closer to the Burda patterns.

The chest measurement and length would be very useful measurements to have. From your description of the child, I think the size 4 would work and if you are worried about the length you could allow for a deeper hem. Checking out the Birthday Party dress pictures in the reviews here and in the Oliver+S flickr group will also help you decide on length.
OliverandS Birthday Party Dress Flickr

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Date: 2/3/14 12:24 PM

I have to adjust all my GD's patterns as she wears what you call a 4/5 tall too. Her width measurements on the Big 4 and Oliver + S patterns correspond to the sizes 4/5 but her height corresponds to the sizes 7/8. So I go with the pattern width size (4/5) but add the length of the of the 7/8 size. Fit on the finished projects have been pretty spot on.

With this pattern I would use the size 4 pattern pieces and add the length that falls between the 5 and 6 sizes right at the bottom. I wouldn't worry about lengthening anywhere else. I think the fit will be perfect. It's a little girl dress (which are very forgiving) so all that really matters is that the bodice sleeve area fits well and I think it will in the size 4 with added length at the bottom. The Big 4 and Oliver + S patterns seem to run close to RTW sizing in kids clothes. So if Mom says a size 4 tall it should be perfect.

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Subject: Little Girls Size 4 Tall Date: 2/3/14 1:24 PM

I'd probably add 2" to the bottom of that dress. No waistline = no worries! If that's too long, it can always be hemmed.

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Subject: Little Girls Size 4 Tall Date: 2/3/14 1:56 PM

Thanks very much you guys! That's what I was hoping. I don't really want to let on that it came from me at all. It can always be passed along if need be, but I'm hoping it fits!

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Date: 2/3/14 10:12 PM

Since the dress has no waist, you can do what others suggest.

For future reference, if you need it. My daughter currently wears a size 4T in RTW, but I find tops to be a little too short while pants fit well. She is in the 98 percentile for height in her age group. I'm convinced all the extra height is in her torso. So you might find out if the tall is proportional or above or below the waist.

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Date: 2/4/14 8:23 AM

The Birthday Party dress uses a hem facing, so it's tricky to hem it after the fact. I would get her height and desired length from back neck in addition to her chest. Then make one size for her chest and another for her height. I do this for my kids in Oliver and S patterns all the time. I can't remember where the break in the sizes is for that one, but if the size you need for length is in the other envelope, add the length in the middle so you don't have to alter the hem facing piece. I made this one for last Easter.

My daughter measures 3 in the chest right now but she's more of a 4 in height. She seems to have longer arms than you'd expect too.

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