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Date: 2/3/14 9:17 PM

My new Sashiko machine's manual says the best thread to use is:

"100% long-staple polyester, within the range of 30-100 weight, cross wound on a cone"

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I use a lot of poly embroidery thread, and it is on a cone, but "long-staple"?? How do I know if it's long-staple or not?

I have lots of Isacord, some Metro and a few Floriani.

Is that what they are talking about, you think?

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Date: 2/3/14 9:27 PM

Polyester is by nature a long fiber... but how it is spun may make the difference...

I found this at Superior Threads

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Date: 2/3/14 9:35 PM

So I guess I can use my poly embroidery thread?

This is confusing me for some reason.

The machine came with a spool of 100% cotton Madeira Cotona thread!

I have some regular Coats and Clark thread, poly/cotton.

I also have some Aurifil, but I think it's too linty to use in the Sashiko machine.

I do plan to try the poly embroidery thread.

I guess in my head I was thinking of the thick thread used for Sashiko hand stitching, and just assumed the machine would use the same kind of thread.

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Date: 2/4/14 5:37 AM

You bring up an excellent point that I never would have considered. Living in Japan, I often saw hand sewn silk and cotton sashiko (of course commercial polyester too) so I would have thought the machine would be able to handle a variety of fibers.
I think I would be feeling a bit discouraged to discover the thread limitations. But all the work I have seen done on these machines is really beautiful. Can't wait to hear how your first project turns out.

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Date: 2/4/14 9:32 AM

Silk and cotton are traditional sashiko threads but I bet the call for polyester has more to do with what the machine does... similar to machine embroidery. I'll bet that you could use most any poly embroidery threads.

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Date: 2/4/14 9:46 AM

They recommend polyester because it does not create a lot of lint.

They also recommend silk, but of course that is very expensive.

The machine did come with a spool of cotton, the manual says to be careful of lint with cotton and clean the machine more frequently.

I know I will use cotton, I'll just have to remember to clean it a lot!

I just happen to have a nice selection of poly embroidery thread, so I am actually glad I can use it!

I do need to search for some thicker thread, especially silk. All mine is #100, and I want to see the sashiko stitches really stand out in silk!

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Date: 2/4/14 1:35 PM

You ask a threadaholic what it means: the answer, from a threadaholic, is that obviously you need to buy more thread

Superior carries the lovely Tire line, which has a variety of heavier-weight silks, up to a #16 which I personally think would make lovely Sashiko. Or if that's a little too thick there's the #30. Just sayin'...

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Date: 2/4/14 4:02 PM

Did you see this? I think that looks pretty good and someone took a long time to make it.

www.bsewinn.com/PDFs/Sashiko50tips.pdf

Also this:

Most threads used on an ordinary sewing machine (cotton, silk, long-staple polyester, etc.) may be
used on your Baby Lock Sashiko, but 100% long-staple polyester thread, cross wound on a cone,
consistently provides the best stitching performance. Because of the thread movement through the
bobbin system the thread must be of uniform thickness and high strength with a minimum amount of
lint being produced.
Good quality cotton or cotton covered polyester threads sew well, though they produce more lint,
creating the need to clean the machine more frequently. Threads of poor grade can result in frequent
fraying, breaking and unbalanced stitches.
IMPORTANT NOTE: For maximum performance of the Baby Lock Sashiko, it is recommended to
use 100% long staple polyester thread within the range of 30 to 100 weight. Wooly nylon, monofilament,
or threads that can be easily snagged are not recommended for this machine.

Was in the manual here:

babylock.com/ftp/whitepapers/Sashiko_BLQK_InstructionRefGuide.pdf‎

Hopefully you got one of those. I have seen samples of it sewn out with two ply, shiny 40 weight , polyester embroidery thread though, but can't remember what exact brand name that was or anything like that. I think does not matter though, and you can use any sewing machine kind of thread that you like the look of when doing it actually. And of any fiber you want. A range of 30 weight (which is pretty heavy for normal garment sewing) to 100 weight which is real skinny is a huge range. But none of those are very thick thread at all either. 30 weight is only a little bit bigger, and thicker than the most normal 40 weight shiny made for machine kind of embroidery thread, and is a bit thicker than most cotton quilting kinds of 40 to 50 weight kind of 2 or 3 ply quilters cotton.

Even polyester overlocker thread still falls into the 30 to 100 weight range too. So I don't think you are limited by much.

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