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brand new 1034D set up?
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Date: 4/6/14 1:52 PM

I just set up my Brother 1034D and threaded it successfully - yay! I've left the settings that it came with, and was able to get a nice edge with my own cotton muslin (lower sample in the photo). However, the loops do not hug the cut edge when I try to serge a knit. The 'Y's' on the back are not perfectly balanced; is this a hint of something amiss? I can't find anything online that suggests how, or if, knit settings need to be different from wovens. I would think they might be, but I don't know how. Other than this, the finish is nice; there's no seam distortion; I'm very pleased with my new tool!

I hope the attached works:

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Date: 4/6/14 2:11 PM

Experiment with the stitch width or move the blade to the right so not so much fabric is cut off.

Be sure you are not stretching the knits as you serge.

Also the stitch length looks shorter on the knit. Maybe lengthen it.

What is your differential feed set at?



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Date: 4/6/14 2:38 PM

There is a trouble shooting section in the manual with some pictures. You probably need to adjust the tension.

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Date: 4/6/14 3:44 PM

You will most likely need to check the settings for most fabrics you intend to serge and adjust slightly each time. When I cut my fabric I keep scraps to test serging on. Remember to test with the same number of layers of fabric that you'll be serging.

Once I get the settings looking good, I make a little rectangular sample and staple it to an index card with the settings written on there. Next time I have a similar fabric, I start with those settings.

From the picture you posted, I would suggest tightening up the upper and lower loopers by the same amount. So if they're both at 4 right now, see what about 4.2/4.3 looks like. Usually a small difference is all that's required.

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Date: 4/6/14 3:46 PM

I don't have this machine but I have a BL protege which is very similar. What works best for me is 4 4 3 3 on the tensions. Hope this will help you.

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Date: 4/6/14 8:27 PM

Thanks all for sharing your expertise. Sewsally, I don't think my machine allows me to move the knife, but while I was looking around underneath, I saw that the stitch finger was removable. So, out it came, and these are the results (all other settings are machine defaults) This is more along the line of what I would expect. Odd that it's not needed on wovens, though; and the manual only discusses removing it in the instructions for rolled hem.

There's a small mis-stitch that the pin is pointing at; any clue what that might be?







http://www.friendsofpr.com/NL6057/nofinger.jpg


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Date: 4/6/14 8:52 PM

Adjust the differential feed so the knit is not being stretched as it is being serged. When the knit relaxes, it tends to shrink away from the thread.

Skipped stitches can indicate new needles are needed, or the left needle is not sitting higher than the right needle, as it should.



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Date: 4/6/14 9:05 PM

I will check out the differential next; thanks for this suggestion PattiAnn. My sample cuts do seem to be a little bit stretched along the serged edge.

Since the machine is brand new, I can't imagine that I'd need new needles already - it came with Schmetzes, and they appear to be installed correctly, but I will double-check.

Serging is a new frontier for me; I'm so glad that others have led the way!

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Date: 4/6/14 9:21 PM

I had this serger. Did you take the stitch finger off? You should leave that on. The needles probably need changed. When I got mine, I had trouble-can't remember the problem but it was fine after I changed the needles. Check the differential and tension on the loopers. There is a trouble shooting page in the back of the book and that will help. You might also need to loosen your foot pressure (the knob on the top). HTH

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Date: 4/7/14 0:36 AM

I do have this machine, the 1034D, and I got it to replace my old Janome serger that was becoming hard on my eyes to thread. From the get go I had loops at the edge with the factory settings. I got a tip from PattiAnnJ to widen the stitch, so I increased it to 6 instead of the factory 5. Wow, from there I rarely have to change it, except of course for knits I need to experiment with the differential feed to ensure the fabric lays flat after serging. On specialty or thin fabrics, I might have to adjust the upper and lower looper tensions. For most fabrics my settings are like this:

Left needle 4 - factory suggested setting.
Right needle 4 - factory suggested setting.
Upper looper 5 (one up from factory)
Lower looper 5 (one up from factory)
Differential feed - 1.0, unless sewing knits, then usually 1.75 - 2.0
Length 3 - factory setting
Width 6 (one up from factory)

These settings on my 1034D are perfect for me for most wovens, and then just change the differential feed for knits. If the loops hang over the edge, adjust your loopers higher. If the edges curl under, decrease your looper settings. Don't despair, you have a good machine there!


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