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Overlock vs overcast vs edge join feet - can someone help
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Date: 4/13/14 6:27 PM

I'm looking at sewing machine feet for my soon to be new machine (juki f600) and see that it comes with an overlock foot. I can't see a presser foot in other brands with this name but see the overcast feet for sewing machines. I own and edge join foot for my Viking and having a hard time differentiating between these three feet. Wondering if they serve virtually the same purpose (joining edges of two fabrics with a look similar to a serger?). Anyone know?

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Date: 4/13/14 7:08 PM

"Overlock"..."overcast"...same difference. Both are used for sewing from the seam line to the fabric edge over the seam allowance(s). Main purpose: finishing seam allowance(s) to prevent the fabric edge(s) from raveling.



An edge join foot is used for joining (seaming) two edges together, such as joining a strip of lace to a garment hem, or sewing two fleece pieces together when normal seaming would be too bulky.



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Date: 4/13/14 7:50 PM

There is such a thing called an overlock foot. It is different from the blindhem foot (first pic in Lynn's post). I have one for my Pfaff 1475 and have written about it at PR twice before. Pfaff is now calling their blindhem foot an overlock foot and no longer make the actual overlock foot.

The overlock foot I have mimics serging, just a lot slower. It covers the edge more and works much better than the blindhem foot for that purpose.

It could just very well be that the one Juki names as an overlock foot actual is more of a blindhem/overcast foot.

It's too bad Pfaff discontinued this foot because it works great. I think my dealer and I are the few who know about it.

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Date: 4/13/14 7:51 PM

This is very helpful, thank you! So with an edge join foot, the foot should somehow pull the two fabrics together and join them, right? They aren't stacked or layered, they are laying down side by side and brought together by the foot. I'm going to need to try out my Viking edge join foot, and await my new overlock foot with my mew machine. I think that I will like the overlock since I don't own a serger (not ready for one).

Can you also do something resembling a picot stitch with the overlock/overcast foot using a chiffon/light fabric? It looks about the same, but without the rolled hem.

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Date: 4/13/14 8:37 PM

Juki makes a hemmer/picot foot. You could use the blind hemmer/overcast foot as well; increase the top thread tension.

The edge joining foot has a blade in the center of the foot; each fabric is butted up to the blade and then a wide stitch (zigzag or decorative) is used to attach the 2 fabrics together.

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Date: 4/13/14 9:03 PM

It is my understanding that the overlock foot is used with a stretch stitch that you use to join stretch fabrics on the edge like a serged seam. The overcast foot usually has a little finger on the right edge that holds the edge of the fabric down smoothly while the machine does the overcast stitch.

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Date: 4/13/14 9:26 PM

Thank you - I cannot wait until it arrives! Now my edge join foot that came with my old Viking does have a blade in the middle but it is flush with the bottom of the presser foot. So it doesn't seem like it could really get between the fabrics. I feel it might be slightly defective, and am tempted to pull the blade down a little, but will look online a bit first. I've never actually used it because I haven't figured it out and never had the need I suppose.

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Date: 4/13/14 9:34 PM

Ok, my "edging foot" does look different and refers to overcast too. I tried stitching in the ditch with it, but it doesn't work for that. I guess it is really and overcast foot and not an edge join after all since Viking calls it "edging" not "edge join." I want an edge join foot to stitch in the ditch. I have a very hard time with SITD so hope the right foot will help!

http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/edging-foot-j-viking-4123806-45.aspx

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Date: 4/13/14 10:15 PM

An edging foot = overcast/overlock foot, uh huh. It's kinda confusing, isn't it!

When to use an overlock vs an overcast foot, if/when your machine brand makes both? If the seam allowances tend to tunnel, use the overcast foot. The tongue on the foot helps hold the seam allowances flat while being stitched.

With open-weave fabrics, such as thick sweater knits, the tongue has a tendency to catch on the fabric; try the overlock foot instead.

A SITD foot should be a help for you. See, this is why we should all buy every foot for every machine we own.

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Date: 4/13/14 11:13 PM

I used one, maybe two feet for years as an occasional sewer. Straight stich, basic foot. But my sewing skills remained pretty much static....you need to have the right tools to do the best job!

I still have one big question and that is how I'm going to be able to use the "right foot" such as the SITD when quilting many layers. I currently need to use a walking foot anytime I'm sewing through thick sandwich layers but would like to be able to quilt with a SITD foot. I know that the Janome Horizon has a walking foot that you can attach other feet too which seems like having the best if both worlds...but it was a little out if my price range. I hope that my new Juk can manage the SITD foot on this layers without bunching up

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