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Date: 5/30/14 4:56 PM

Can't find any in the sewing machine reviews. Anybody have or used one of these? How would you rate it for use with canvas, webbing, and similar heavy fabrics? I know it's not a walking foot/compound feed machine, but still plenty strong? Any cautions or hazards? Like or dislike?

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Date: 5/30/14 10:38 PM

I have used one in my workplace and also the 8700 and 5550n. It is a very good basic industrial. Very easy to use and fast enough to be useful. The attachments work great ( invisible zipper, zipper, piping foot ect.) Downside is no automatic thread cutter, but that is about it for me.
For webbing and heavy work this will not be enough in my opinion. It will do occasional heavy stuff like canvas but it will be a struggle. The Juki is a strong machine but you will be limited to how heavy of thread will work and how large a needle. If this is your main focus in the work to be done get a heavier duty machine that can handle that work with better stitch quality. Walking foot machines are very good for those jobs and this Juki is not made for that level in my opinion. It is stellar as a all around good garment sewing and repair machine.

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Date: 5/31/14 12:30 PM

If you get an alternate throat plate and more robust feed doggs you should be in good shape. You will also need to get a thicker gauge needle and adjust the amount of pressure on the pressure foot. Certainly having the right pressure foot for each of your seaming applications is a must. I even sew on leather with little trouble using a teflon foot.

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Date: 6/1/14 9:26 PM

I have the Juki 9000. I love it but I know I need to do something different for heavy fabrics. I broke several needles which caused me to call for service, each time being 100.00+ dollars! ( the hook underneath got a burr on it , causing the thread to catch, ruining the stitch.) I have gotten a new throat plate with a bigger hole, but have not changed the feed dogs. What should I ask my dealer for? And size needles?
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Otherwise I love the speed and accuracy of the machine. It has the pedal operated needle lift and thread cutter, and a Servo motor. It also has a computer, which can program stitching (think auto back tack, then sew, then auto backpack) I do love it, excepting the above issue.
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Date: 6/1/14 11:44 PM

Just like there is the throat plate with the bigger needle hole, there are some with bigger slots for wider/thicker feed dogs. You just need to make sure your dealer gives you a pair that work together. The bummer is that whenever you need to switch back to the lighter plate/dog set, it's sometimes not fun to have to replace both the feed dogs and the plate (and then maybe even the needle)! ... but this is coming from someone who has a meltdown when I have to stop to wind a bobbin! lol

I also have a wonderful binding attachment... but same thing- I have to switch out the plate and the feed doggs for it's special set up.

I'm so pleased to see there are industrial machine users here on PR. For me it's completely the way to go if you are serious about sewing. Average home machine goes 650 stitches per minute with the Juki going 5500 stitches per minute! woooosh!!

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Date: 6/3/14 8:40 AM

Quote: Catina
Just like there is the throat plate with the bigger needle hole, there are some with bigger slots for wider/thicker feed dogs. You just need to make sure your dealer gives you a pair that work together. The bummer is that whenever you need to switch back to the lighter plate/dog set, it's sometimes not fun to have to replace both the feed dogs and the plate (and then maybe even the needle)! ... but this is coming from someone who has a meltdown when I have to stop to wind a bobbin! lol


Stop to wind a bobbin? Why? You can wind them while you sew. Of course, you need a second matching spool of thread, but that's not that much of a hardship.

to OP: the 8500 came in a bunch of variations, for light, medium, or heavy weight goods. In the absence of other information, assume it's the medium weight one, without any automation. If you can sew it with a size 18 needle, and it's less than about 1/2 thick, it should work fine. But don't pay a whole lot. Brand new industrials are going for 800ish.
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Date: 9/5/14 5:13 PM

Just looked at a used one & the foot needs to be replaced due to
some rust. Anyone know cost/availability of these feet ? Rest of machine looks fine. thanks!

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Date: 9/5/14 9:57 PM

You can get feet on ebay for pretty cheap, not sure the quality. sewing machine foot They aren't very expensive. You also can probably pick one up at a local sewing machine store, there are a lot of sewing machine shops that carry some industrial items.

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Date: 9/5/14 10:01 PM

I have the DDL-8700-7. It also has auto cut-off and different pre-set stitches. I couldn't live without that now that I have had them. I have sewn quite a few sports bags from 1000D Cordura on this machine and it didn't have a problem, but I think it would have been much easier with a walking foot machine, just to have that extra help guiding the fabric through the machine. I was always exhausted after a day of sewing bags. I have tried to sew really heavy canvas and trampoline fabric as well, and that did not work at all. I would probably strongly recommend a walking foot machine, just to help push the fabric through.

The machine also did work fine for the webbing as well. I always used a heavy weight nylon thread when making my bags, both in the top and bottom thread. I had to adjust the tensions quite a bit, but it sewed through two layers of web and the bag fabric, just had to be careful. I never used anything higher than a 16 needle, but only used really good quality needles.

I sewed medium weight canvas on my machine as well, and it sewed very well.

But if you are sewing exclusively heavier products, I still recommend a walking foot machine.


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Date: 9/6/14 0:16 AM

Thanks very much for all the replies. Since I started this thread, I have purchased a Singer 211G166 walking foot heavy duty machine, and am very happy with it. I'll be writing a review of the machine once I have a couple more projects on it, and have learned more about it. So far, so good!

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