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Date: 6/12/14 8:31 PM

Hi...I'm curious..those people who have a Janome (or other brand) with a top loading bobbin that has the little magnetic ring under the bobbin..do you ever sew without that ring in place?

I went to clean my 6600 yesterday and found that I had inadvertently left out the magnetic ring when I cleaned it last (about a week ago) and I have been sewing all week without it. It didn't seem to affect my machine at it. In fact, I thought I was having less thread breakages but that could be my imagination. I put it back in and I'm sure there were more breakages again. There's no nicks on the ring, or the bobbin case, that I can detect (and it's recently been serviced and checked). The thread is probably not the best (but it's ok) but its cones that are supplied by my employer so I have no choice but to use them

I was just curious if there would be any adverse effects in leaving the magnetic ring out for the long term and wondered if anyone runs their machine permanently without it. I do believe it's there to help hold the bobbin case in place so I suppose there is the risk of the bobbin jumping out of place easier but I'm just curious what others have done

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Date: 6/12/14 9:20 PM

That ring I believe is vital to operation of the hook. I do not advise you sew without it!! If you have any doubt about its function then talk to your Janome tech!!! Sorry if I sound so alarmed but I mean this in the kindest way. Your 6600 is your valued machine. If you have thread breakage it is for other reasons.
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Date: 6/12/14 9:41 PM

Phew! OK! Thread breakage... I always re-thread the machine and bobbin. Make sure the thread sits in the Uptake lever correctly. Check to see if the thread is getting caught on the spool, especially a cause with sewing with older C&C spools with the notch. I always change the needle... speaking of which, the needle is the most common cause for thread breaks. Do you have the right size and type for your thread? Needle eyes can have burrs so changing to a fresh package is helpful. Check the upper tension - default is 4 on the tension dial. Have you considered using a thread stand?

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Date: 6/12/14 9:43 PM

I don't think that ring is supposed to even come out!!! I have never even considered it. You can remove the bobbin case, and that's it. Clean and put it back. :)

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Date: 6/12/14 9:48 PM

I was so surprised by this post that I removed the needle plate to see if it comes out and it does. But I doubt very highly that it is meant to be removed for sewing. Perhaps if lint and thread bits get caught, it can be removed for cleaning, but I never even considered touching it before this.

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Date: 6/12/14 11:34 PM

Warbler...I did not mean to alarm you..and rest assured, the ring is now back under my bobbin case It just made me curious when I discovered mine missing. I did google and the only thing I could find was that it is there to help hold the bobbin case in place, which I tend to think is the case (I might be wrong and I will check with my tech next time I have the machine serviced, out of curiosity). The metal bottom of the bobbin case sits squarely (or roundly, should I say) on top of it. It certainly did not seem to affect the machine at all with it gone but I do suspect that the bobbin case might be more likely to move out of place.

Yes Muffet, and Warbler, that ring does come out. I've always removed it to clean under it and have done so for the past 30 years or so as my old Janome also has the same setup. I have a 7700 and 6600, as well as a 5200, which I bought as a backup for my 7700 before I got the 6600, and I remove that ring for cleaning in all of them :)

I was just curious when I found I'd been sewing without it :)

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Date: 6/13/14 11:57 AM

:) Good to know you are sewing OK. Well, I always take the needle plate off and the bobbin case out and vacuum and brush and all that and put that tiny drip of oil on the wick once every 6 months to a year, but never took out or tried to - the little ring. Live and learn! :)

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