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Date: 6/21/14 10:21 AM

Hi all! I'm happy to have found this website because I'm hoping that someone will be able to help me with my sewing machine, namely the bobbin issues. This is a Singer Limited Edition (no number that I can find) cira 1986. It had belonged to my mother in law, and the manual is nowhere to be found. Since I haven't found a number, I haven't been able to find a manual online, either. I'm continuing to have problems with the self-winding bobbin. Last year, I took it to a shop to have it cleaned and oiled, and only one woman in the shop knew how to wind the bobbin. (Maybe the fact that singer no longer makes this style says that there were continued problems??) She showed me, I practiced, and it was fine. This year I got the machine back out, and I'm still having problems. I followed the instructions I found in another post but am still having issues. The thread on the bobbin seems very loose, and one time it wound the thread completely underneath the bobbin. Every time I sew the top thread is fine, but the bobbin thread makes a tremendous mess on the back of the fabric. Is this a user problem? A machine problem? Help??

Thanks in advance!

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Date: 6/21/14 11:32 AM

When you wind a bobbin, do you very gently hold onto the thread just before the bobbin? This seems to make a huge difference in my Pfaff when I wind bobbins on it. Otherwise, I get the same problems you do. Thread is wound wonky, and often under the bobbin. Then when I try to sew, it makes nests. A little gentle tension works wonders when winding bobbins. Try it and see if it helps.

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Date: 6/21/14 12:35 PM

Look at the set up for bobbin winding in this download to see if it will work for your machine.

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Date: 6/22/14 0:04 AM

Sorry you are having issue with your sm and no manual to help you... perhaps if you posted a pic of your sm here on PR someone will know the model and number...

oops... forgot... you need help with winding the bobbin... Maybe this will work... Take thread from spool and run it through the little obstacle course when you get to the stumpy round post where you bring the thread around...loop the thread...just once and bring the thread to your bobbin...

Take the end of the thread and coming in from the center of the bobbin bring the end of the thread up through a hole in the bobbin...hold it there with your finger... now begin to wind the thread around the bobbin a few times... place bobbin on winding post... and go. Looping the thread around that post gives a little tension on the thread... Also watch the thread winding and help it along with your finger so it is winding thread up and down the bobbin until the bobbin is full... Hope this works for you and you get a nice tightly wound bobbin...

It's also possible you are not placing the bobbin in the bobbin case correctly... this can be causing the thread mess... holding the wound bobbin the thread end should be facing away from you and should be coming off the bobbin from the top... the bobbin case has an area with a slanted notch and a overlapping piece of metal... holding the bobbin case in your left hand and the bobbin in your right hand... place bobbin into the bobbin case...bringing thread through the slanted slot and up into the center of the metal piece... that should do it... place bobbin case in sm.

Either turn your hand wheel or step once on your foot pedal to bring the bobbin thread up... when you are ready to sew... hold both threads until sm has made a few stitches into the fabric then you can let go of the threads... this should help eliminate the birds nest thread mess you are describing...





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Date: 6/22/14 1:21 AM

I don't think there were that many wind in place bobbin machines in the 1980's but maybe it's a Singer 290. So go to the singer webiste here:


http://www.singerco.com/support/instruction-manuals/search

type in 290, and then print that owners manual out.

and maybe just use that book for it, at least it shows you how to wind a bobbin in a 1980's Singer machine, that has a self winding bobbin there.

I don't think that because Singer no longer makes that style of bobbin winding right now, means it was problem at all, just since in the 1970's tons of Singer machines wound a bobbin that way, and also even in the early 2000's both Singer's and Elna's very most expensive multi-thousand dollar machines could also wind a bobbin like that , by just even one of several choices, if you wanted them to also. I think it just means you don't know how to use the machine instead. Also, even the fact that your Mother in Law can wind a bobbin on it just fine, also really kind of shows that too. So yes, it's a user problem, but download and read that book, and do what it says, and maybe the problem will go away?

I think wind in place bobbins wind a bit looser than ones on top of the machine sometimes but that's O.K. Also if your bobbin thread makes a big mess on the back of the fabric that most times just means you probably either threaded the machine up wrong in the top thread, or maybe you by accident put your top thread tension on zero instead of the middle # there.
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