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Posted on: 2/20/07 10:31 AM
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One of the nice things about men's RTW clothing is that it's sized by measurement. But while dress shirts are sold by neck and sleeve sizes, most patterns are based on chest and waist measurements. It can be frustrating to try and figure out what the neck and sleeve measurements are for a pattern size. I found this chart in an OOP Vogue 7954 that is very useful: (All measurements are in inches.)

Size Chest Waist Hip Neck Sleeve
30 30 24 31 13 31
32 32 26 33 13.5 31
34 34 28 35 14 32
36 36 30 37 14.5 32
38 38 32 39 15 33
40 40 34 41 15.5 33
42 42 36 43 16 34
44 44 39 45 16.5 34
46 46 42 47 17 35
48 48 44 49 17.5 35

No guarantees, but this same chart should work for all Vogue, Butterick, McCall's and Simplicity patterns.

For Kwik Sew patterns, I found this information in 2880:

Size Chest Waist Hip Neck Sleeve
S 34-36 28-30 35-37 14.5 32
M 38-40 32-34 39-41 15.5 33
L 42-44 36-38 43-45 16.5 34
XL 46-48 40-42 47-49 17.5 35
XXL 50-52 44-46 51-53 18.5 36

The newer Kwik Sew shirt patterns actually include separate cutting lines for the neck and sleeve sizes right on the pattern, making it very easy to make a size L with a 17.5" neck and a 33" sleeve, but the older ones do not. Again, I'm assuming that this chart is standard and you can use it for the older patterns.

[Sorry, but I don't know how to make a nice table in a tip - my tabs and spaces are all being thrown away.]

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Seamingly Simple said...
What a great resource. DH has a wide neck and finds that shirts that fit his neck are too tent-like. Being able to fit the neck and chest separately makes so much sense.
2/20/07 11:01 AM
frame said...
Wonderful info. Thanks.
2/20/07 9:49 PM
SewVeryTall said...
Irene, thanks for the great information. One way to make your chart a little clearer, would be to use 4-5 periods between the titles and between the numbers....like....this. Double spaced lines would make it easier to read, too.
2/21/07 7:09 AM
jbrewer said...
Thanks Irene, for very helpful information. I can read it just fine! I'm going to print this out and keep it for my reference.
2/21/07 9:28 AM
OP Gal said...
Great tip! I'm printing this out.
2/21/07 1:31 PM
marycds said...
Thanks for this. I'm going to look at those Kwik Sew patterns too. My son has a small neck and that might be just the thing.
2/26/07 3:54 PM
Joey in Katy said...
You can use HTML to make tables in your tip like this:
Size Chest Waist Hip Neck Sleeve
30 30 24 31 13 31

3/1/07 8:36 AM
katzfarm said...
A great help
5/13/07 0:49 AM
crystalwoods said...
I'm about to sew a Vogue shirt for my grandson, and this information is VERY helpful! Thanks so much
10/16/11 6:14 PM
 
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