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sjones2

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Date: 1/8/09 6:20 PM

My opportunity is gone to keep the 638 I'm using (I wish she would make up her mind) so now I need to know if a kenmore 18221 or Janome 11574 can use the same needles, bobbins and other accessories. Also can I find Janome stuff, like needles and bobbins, at a Joannes or is it something I need to buy online?
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Date: 1/8/09 6:59 PM

Yes, you can use the same needles, click on feet, and probably the same bobbin, as long as they are the plastic variety. The Kenmore machines are made by Janome.

I recently went by Sears Grand---KMart just to look at some of those machines that everyone talks about that are made by Janome, and they had some decent little machines for a budget minded person.

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Date: 1/8/09 7:43 PM

The needles for kenmore and Janome are both made by Organ.

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Date: 1/8/09 8:21 PM

As far as needles, you should be able to also use Schmetz and Klasse brand needles too. My Janome is quite versatile and has no preference. I also have a set of Organ needles but I do not understand their numbering system, so I do not buy Organ brand but all of these brands should perform quite well.

Find out if your machine is low or high shank. I think most Janome machines are low shank but not all. Knowing the shank height will help you determine which foot accessories your machine can use. I believe, from the bottom of the pressure foot to the needle bar screw the distance for low shank is 3/4 inch. High shank is 1-1/4 inches.

Bobbins are not as interchangeable as most folk think. Many Janome machines can only use Janome bobbins. If your machine has a horizontal magnetic rotary hook, it can only use Janome plastic - not metal - bobbins. Some bobbins look the same but may have minor size differences which can cause all kinds of stitch quality issues. Bobbins are relatively inexpensive so I find it is worth every penny to buy the correct ones. Your machine manual should tell you.
You can order or buy Janome accessories from any Janome dealer, Kenmore can use most any Janome accessory. Your machine will benefit from parts and accessories that match your machine rather than always using generic accessories.
Places like Kens Sewing or Allbrands or any other Janome dealer should have accesories... or at least able to order a special attachment or foot. Best wishes!

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Date: 1/8/09 8:39 PM

If the question is: Can a Janome use kenmore needles, then the answer is yes.

If the question is: need to know if a kenmore 18221 or Janome 11574 can use the same needles, bobbins...*as the Singer 638*...then that depends.

Are the needles Singer brand needles? If so, then the answer is typically a NO. Singer needles are good, well made needles, but are slightly not quite right for Janome/Kenmore sms. The same for the Singer class 15 bobbins.

Kenmore/Janome needles are made by Organ and have the Organ name on them, and other needles will be fine too, such as Schmetz.

A PR search on needles will show many posts on this subject.

ETA: About the feet...Kenmore/Janome has a 7 piece feed dog that needs larger feet, especially for zig zag, etc., so need to be sure that the needle is clearing the foot so that it doesn't hit the foot and break...possibly dangerous for the eyes...and the sm.
-- Edited on 1/8/09 8:45 PM --

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Date: 1/8/09 10:19 PM

You couldn't use the same bobbins as your 638. The cost of bobbins is negligible anyway, so buy a lot. You will need to get them from Sears or Janome or online somewhere because the bobbins at Joanns are not the same as the bobbins for your Kenmore or Janome. If you read the back of the card (or the front in some cases) they will say NOT FOR JANOME KENMORE ELNA etc. on those clear plastic bobbins that tend to look the same. They are pretty inexpensive at Sears. Janome IS Sears when it comes to the needles and bobbins. There are vertical bobbin machines and horizontal bobbin machines. The horizontal drop in bobbin is going to be the machine with the 7 part feed dogs, and they need the feet which are made for the "horizontal" machines. Which means horizontal BOBBIN machines. There are Janomes with vertical metal bobbins, and they might have a more narrow foot, and they take VERTICAL feet - meaning feet made fot the vertical bobbin machines.

In any case, whatever machine you buy, you should get bobbins for that machine. Needles for home sewing machines you normally encounter are pretty standardized - the only needle which anyone says is a problem can be a Singer needle in a Kenmore or Janome or Elna etc. I have never had a problem. I haven't used Singers in my Kenmore or Janome or Viking, but I have used them in a Euro-Pro as well as other sorts of needles, without incident. So you can use Klasse, Schmetz, Kenmore, Janome, and Organ needles, as well as the cheapo Simplicity needles (I never had a problem with these but some people have).

let us know what machine you decide to buy!

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Date: 1/8/09 10:28 PM

Wait...I have a Kenmore (horizontal bobbin) and I use JoAnn bobbins. There's a difference? I took my bobbin with me to JA to buy and they look identical to me. Puh-lease tell me that I'm not going to have to send away for something as silly as bobbins....

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Date: 1/8/09 11:18 PM

Some bobbins are very close but again it will depend on the feed and hook system on your machine. If I were you and they were the only bobbins I had... I would use them but if you begin to experience stitch quality issues, I would replace them with the correct bobbins.

Now regarding stitch quality, there are many reasons why problems can occur, make sure that you systematically eliminate all other factors such as tension, needle type & size that lead to poor stitch formation. incorrect, worn or damaged bobbins can be one of them. Best of luck!
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Date: 1/8/09 11:30 PM

I bought my machine!!! I am so excited to use it I will have to wait a little longer since I ordered it online though. It is the Janome 11558 the equivalent of a Kenmore 15358. I am really excited to start sewing! I was going to get the model just up from this, but after careful thought I decided that I might not be sewing as much as I think and this sewing machine would be a good test to see what I really do, if its not enough than I can buy an upgrade later when I can afford more.
I am sure I will be posting quite a bit with questions about various things :), Thanks for responding it is nice to know that I have a lot of experienced people to ask.

PS. I mostly wanted to know if Kenmore & Janome used the same stuff so I would know where to buy my needles and bobbins.

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Date: 1/9/09 0:42 AM

Congratulations on your new machine! I hope you enjoy sewing with her and it leads to a new lifelong love of sewing. You know that if you ever have questions, this is a need to know information source!

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