Member since 12/12/07
Date: 7/18/09 3:25 PM
we moved recently i found out there is a local pfaff dealer, i went in since i am in the market for a serger and found they have these
there were almost closing for the day so i didnt get a chance to try the machine. i am particularly intrigued with the coverlock 4862. how are these compare to the BL imagine? i am going to look up reviews for them here too.
any yay or nay on the above? does anyone know if it uses regular sewing machine needles or "special needles"?
any tips appreciate!
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Member since 4/22/04
Date: 7/18/09 7:36 PM
I had the 4842 and it is a really nice serger that offers numerous stitches but it seems this particular model needs more tension changes than most for each stitch but it does have some of the best looking stitches one can find on a serger. I gave my Pfaff 4842 to my DDIL when I purchased my Elna Coverlock.
ThePfaff 4862 has auto tensions that are great, just dial the stitch you wish on the graph and the tensions are set automatically. Tensions can still be adjusted if needed. The 4862 is much like my Elna 744 being both are only 4 thread sergers but besides overlock stitches they also do chain stitch and coverhem. One main difference is that the 744 does 3 coverhem stitches that includes the triple cover and it also has a tilt needle bar and different needle postions. Other wise both sergers are rather similar. I don't know how similar they are in converting to come hem though. I know on my 744 I don't need to change the needle plate or foot to convert. You might wish to check this out on the 4862. I think both the Elna and Pfaff are made in the same factory in Japan.
The Coverstyle I think is much like the Pfaff 4852. These are 5 thread models and do coverhem but I am unusre if they do the triple seam cover. I don't think they have auto tensions.
I have never tried the 4764 or the Hobbylock 2. The 2 I believe is their newest serger. I think it is more of a light weight compared to the 4842. The 4842 I know is made in Japan and has the same style and design as the coverlock machines. It also has the knife that swings down rather than pushes asiide.
The BL Imagine of course has the air threading and no coverhem and owners really like them for this feature. There is quite a difference between all the models and I really do think if you can sit and try each one you might immediately find which is best for you. I hope you find a serger you love to use.
EDA..I forgot to mention that when I had the 4842 I found it to be a heavy duty serger and it seemed to handle all that my coverlock does. I used the 4842 to serge many fleece items and gifts at the time that I owned it too. If I remember correctlly the 4842 has the same special feature as my coverlock where if needed, you can actually go into the left inside of the serger where you can use a lock down screw for the knife for extrememly heavy material so that the knife will not budge in any way but I have never had to use that feature. This feature is not used for regular serging and must be released once again when not needed.
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Member since 3/1/06
Date: 7/18/09 7:53 PM
I have the Hobbylock 4764. It's very easy to use and thread. It does not require special needles and it handles wooly nylon thread in the loopers with ease. The one thing I do not like about it is that you have to switch plate to make a rolled hem. But the rolled hem, as well as the other stitches, turn out beautifully. Now here is where I ran into problems - even though I successfully serged through two layers of med weight denim, when I was serging a heavier interlock knit, it was struggling unless I slowed down the speed. I never got a chance to try out fleece before my dealer messed up my machine. That's a whole other story. In the meantime, I've been using a EuroPro I purchased new for $74. The stitches are no where near as nice but it suffices.
My best advice is to check the reliability of the dealer. I wish I would've done more research in that area.
Member since 8/24/02
Date: 7/18/09 8:57 PM
I really wanted a 4862, but couldn't find one, so I bought a used 4872 which is the next model up, that's been discontinued for the 4874. Both take EL needles, I buy Schmetz ones.
My grandmother taught me to sew when I was 10, and I've been sewing ever since.
Member since 5/28/07
Skill: Advanced Beginner
Date: 7/19/09 5:53 PM
When I was doing my serger research/shopping it came down to the pfaff 4862 or the Elna 845. I got the Elna based on a few features I liked better on the Elna but also price and level of support. If you have good support for the pfaff I think its nice machine.