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Date: 7/9/10 10:40 PM

I just got my new Brother serger and there is nothing in the instructions about doing the lettuce edging. I experimented with some settings and haven't had any luck.
Lettuce edging is where you are covering the edge with stitching and pulling at the same time so it forms a ruffle.
On my old singer you had to make one of the loopers really tight and the other loose so it wrapped around.
Does anyone know how to do this on the Brother?
I use that edging a lot.
Thanks,
Pam

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Date: 7/9/10 11:30 PM

Did you get the 2 CD's with your serger? If so, the "Serger Techniques" CD has a section on "decorative stitching" and it shows the instructor doing a lettuce edge. You have to set it up for a rolled hem I think (she explains it). I remember trying the lettuce edge once on a couple inches of stretchy knit when I first got my serger but haven't tried it since. HTH's

ETA You're right about it not being in the handbooks. If you didn't get the CD's for some reason let me know and I will look at mine for the tension settings, etc. I'd do it now but I don't run Windows so it won't load properly and I have to fool around a little to find what I need on the disk.
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Date: 7/10/10 0:19 AM

Do a rolled hem, set the differential on the lowest (stretch) setting, and stretch the fabric (not too hard, don't want to bend/deflect the needles!) as you serge.

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Date: 7/10/10 1:02 AM

The curl of the lettuce edge can vary too, depending on which side of the material you use as the up and down side, the DF setting, the amount of stretch in the fabric, the amount you stretch as you serge and the different grain of fabric. You can try a test sample first to test the curl and the stretch of the fabric. Knits and light bias wovens curl the best.
When starting to lettuce an edge wit DF set about .07 you can take hold of the chain behind the fabric as you start and give it some pull from behind and as you serge stretching from both behind and the front of the fabric with an even amount of stretch.
On some fabrics that lettuce nicely like ribbing and light weight knits they can also run when stretched. If a fabric runs, then maybe use a shorter stitch..but wide enough for the roll of thread to clear the stitch finger.
To prvent runs in fabrics that have the tendancy to do so, you can also try pressing a fold on the edge first and serge over the fold with "no" stretching but when through serging, then stretch the fabric and the lettucing should be even with no runs.

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Date: 7/10/10 2:51 AM

Hi Pam, does your Brother have a foot or a stitch finger that you swimg down for rolled edging?

The easiest way to get the lettuce edge sorted would to phone your dealer and they should be able to just rattle off the settings for you. Failing that.....

I find that if you set the overlocker to do a 3 thread stitch and make sure that is correct first at least you know that the overlocker is threaded up correctly. Next... either put the rolled hem foot on or swing down the little finger that converts to a rolled edge. Set up the machine so that you tighten the lower looper (the far right dial) by 2.5 numbers. Loosen the upper looper by about 2 numbers to begin with. Tighter is a higher number and looser is lower. At this point you will only have one needle in the machine (as you are probably aware anyway) Now put the diff feed on 0.7 and the stitch length on about 1.5 to begin with. test sew and see what a basic rolled edge on say lightweight woven looks like just with a normal overlocker cone thread. If the upper looper doesn't go over all the way to the back then loosen it some more. When you have done that, if the upper looper thread is still not reaching over to the back and looking like a roll then it's time to tighten the lower looper by .5 at a time until you see a nice looking roll. The upper looper thread needs to be loose enough to go over the edge and the lower looper needs to be tight enough to "hold" it and pull it in place if you get my drift!. Once you have established that you have a nice rolled edge then go for some stretch t-shirt or similar and test. You will probably have to increase the cutting width which means moving the lower blade to the right, your book should walk you through that. Just bring the blad out about 1/3 of the way. Sorry I can't remember if you have numbers. This stops the lettuce edge from falling off the edge as you stitch stretchy stuff. Also, you will then be able to see if you like the stitch length. Often you need to set it shorter. The mistake you can make sometimes is to set the rolled edge stitch length at the suggested 0.5 or 1 and the stitches can "crowd" and then you can't see what's going on. I know these instructions sound long winded but it's easier to do a process of elimination to get the final stitch correct if you are having problems. eg: know that tension is correct first by the 3 thread, then know that the rolled edge is ok, and lastly test the lettuce. If the steps along the way are ok then when a step doesn't work you will be able to (hopefully) work out what's going on.

Hope this helps you
Good luck
Sue

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Date: 7/10/10 11:36 AM

Wow, thanks so much to all of you. I will try everything out tomorrow.
I did actually get the dvds but the woman put me to sleep on the first one so I never watched the second one. She acted like she was reading and I can read faster so I just checked the book
I'm using spandex to make dance clothing so the lettuce edge is very useful.
I will start a business with it when I get good enough but there are a lot of techniques they use in RTW that are just not in the serger books. Lots to learn!
Thanks again,
Pam

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Date: 7/12/10 10:33 AM

Total success!! The best lettuce edging I've ever done!
Thank you all so much.
Now I have to get back to learning the binding attachment to the new coverstitch machine.
Pam

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