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Date: 3/28/06 9:02 PM

I received my Hot Patterns order today and just now opened up the Pants to Die For to take a look at the drafting. I found the back crotch curve very unusual:

HP Pants back crotch curve

Please take a look and tell me what you think. This doesn't look like any pattern I've ever made nor is it shaped anything like me.

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Date: 3/28/06 9:16 PM

Interesting - I have never seen a pair of squared off buns like that either!

Maybe you could compare the back crotch curve from a pattern you like and round off the angle?

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Date: 3/28/06 9:17 PM

Irina, I took a class with Cynthia Guffey in which she used a flexible ruler to give us a precise image of our crotch curves. It was amazing to see how squared off most of the students were. The patterns were mostly very u-shaped by comparison. She recommended that we use the curve she took to modify our patterns so we wouldn't get the saggy butt crotch that most patterns give us. So I would recommend making a muslin and checking the fit. You do want to make sure you have a couple of inches of ease for sitting, but don't be too surprised if the curve hugs better than others you have used,

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Date: 3/28/06 9:18 PM

I've already received a response from HP about this. Here's what they had to say:

"Yes it's correct , the person who independently tested tis for us said the same thing( she is very well known and respected) but said that when she made it up these were the best fitting pants she had ever made, make a muslin though! pants fitting is never an easy sewing task
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Hotpatterns"

I guess I'll try it in very cheap fabric first. I'm very interested in feedback from anyone else who tries this pattern.

I hope it's ok that I quoted someone's email.

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Date: 3/28/06 9:55 PM

Irina, the Razor pants have the same squared-off crotch curve. I did a muslin last night, and they fit! I have some adjustments to make, but the back curve is fine. I always thought I had a low seat, not a square seat!

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Date: 3/28/06 10:01 PM

Gosh, this is a first for me too. I've never seen a crotch curve or is that square like this before.

If it were me, I'd probably use a french curve to smooth that very sharp angle, adding no more than a 1/4". I imagine when the pants were sewn by the tester this is ehat they did but on the sewing machine. I can't imagine someone actually sewing the crotch with a pivot point!!

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Date: 3/28/06 10:19 PM

I've had the same reaction while looking at my Razor Sharp pants pattern, but what the heck - I'll cut it with a generous seam allowance to allow for smoothing out the curve if necessary. Actually, I was looking at it thinking "I hate to mutilate this curve by lowering it as much as I think I'll have to." This should be interesting!

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Date: 3/28/06 10:42 PM

Well, if they fit as well as all that, this could be a big seller for Hot Patterns! It definitely as a lot of curiousity value! Really, what an interesting UNcurveball they threw with that "curve!" I can't wait to see how your pants look Karla!

It would be really interesting to compare this crotch curve to Burda's and see how pants out of the same fabric and similar styles fit with the two different crotch curves!

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Date: 3/29/06 5:35 AM

Well, I'm game to give it a whirl! I'll probably try it without alterations the first time because I have no clue what kind of adjustments a curve like that might ultimately need.

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Date: 3/29/06 12:33 PM

That crotch curve is very similar to the one in my HotPatterns Miss Moneypenny Bianca Pants Suit pant. I think that sharp little pivot/corner is a result of computer drafting and is meant to be a slight curve there rather than a pivot. As for the wide and shallow crotch curve and the vertical center back seam, that too is similar to the Bianca pants pattern. In the Bianca pants, the curve itself fit the crotch closely but the pants leg fell away from the lower buttock in a straight line rather than the leg cupping into the crotch/buttock area. I would suggest comparing the crotch depth/rise to a pattern whose rise works for you, because my Bianca's rise was MUCH shorter than that indicated on the pattern.

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