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Date: 5/18/06 7:56 PM

I am making Simplicity 5271, a basic pair of lounge or sweatpants. I am working with a raspberry knit from Jo-Ann's. I do not remember what they are made of, but I think poly/cotton blend. There is cotton in them and I can feel some poly for sure. Really soft fabric.

I cut out a Large. I only shortened the legs some. I can see not nearly enough.

Anyway, as Debbie suggested, I basted the outer sides, insides and crotch seam. I tried them on and grabbed all the extra fabric in the waist . I have lots of it and the legs seem baggy. They hang just like my tailored pants do. too baggy. I am swimming in them.

I made this pattern up in a large in a muslin last month, and I do not remember standing, holding them up and thinking "I am swimming in them". I did not tie any elastic to me to hold them up today. Just my hands.

Questions:Should I take them apart and make them closer to a Medium? Why in a knit are they so much bigger?

They fit pretty good in cotton muslin. I grant you, I did the casing and inserted elastic before trying on. I just cant' see how using elastic in a casing is going to take up this much extra fabric.

I might like them this way in a sweat pant for winter, but not in a casual pant for spring and summer.

What should I do?

Carol

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Date: 5/18/06 9:36 PM

I believe that the non-stretch fabric you originally made in a muslin was the correct size from the pattern if it is specifically designed for non-stretch. When working with a knit fabric from a pattern recommending non-stretch material, you should always cut down one size...this thanks to Stretch & Sew instructions from taking their class years and years ago. Likewise, S&S--which is known for knit patterns--instruct that patterns be cut one size larger from their patterns when using a non-stretch fabric. This has always worked for me. But it is the pits when you find yourself drowning in what you thought would be a nice fitting
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Date: 5/18/06 9:54 PM

The pattern is made for knits or fleece or anything that stretches. I simply made it up in a cotton to try out my serger! That was the only reason I even tried the pattern, so I can learn to use my serger.

So, since the pattern is made for knits, what do I do now? I can finish them and see what I end up wiht. I can take them apart, (as they are only basted), lay the pattern on them, and cut them down to a Medium.

Or I can trace a between the M/L size and try again. I think that is probably what I should do. If I made them in sweatshirt fabric, then I will make them bigger, so they can shrink as much as they want over time. But in a knit fabric that will not shrink much if any, then I want them to fit the way they should. Even for lounge pants around the house. I might wear them to town.

I can't imagine wearing them as loose as they currently are.

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Date: 5/19/06 10:03 AM

Carol, I would go for the taking apart option and compare and recut the size lines. As I said in my PM and was repeated above, knit patterns are sized differently than wovens. This way you won't have a wadder, but another pair of pants that can be worn.

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Date: 5/20/06 10:06 AM

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The pattern is made for knits or fleece or anything that stretches.


But you made your muslin in a woven. A woven will always fit differently than a knit so you can't rely on a woven as a good representation of how a knit will fit and feel. You need more ease in a woven because the fabric has no stretch. That's why the test felt OK because you *needed* the extra room due to the non-stretch of the test fabric.

I'd baste the knit pants with bigger seam allowances and then try them on. Make notes on your pattern for next time and then sew these pants with bigger seam allowances if your baste test is OK.

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Date: 5/20/06 10:18 AM

Definitely knits of any type fit differently than a woven. Even vertically. You may also notice that you have too much fabric in that direction also. If I use the actual descriptive word will the automatic filter delete me?

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Date: 5/20/06 1:08 PM

I traced out a Medium and set it asise for later use. The medium and smaller sizes has the crotch seam a little higher than the L and XL. I was not sure what to do about that, so I have both of the crotch lines on the pattern. I made the Meduim ones in pencil and the Large one in red pencil. Just in case I figure this out. I should not have to retrace the pattern again for this area.

Then I took the pants apart. I laid them on the pattern, matching them as well as I could. I pinned the grain line so it would stay and then pinned the rest. Then I turned them over, and used my water soluable pin and dotted the grain line. I turned them over again and marked the Medium lines in the water marker. Then I marked the sewing lines in white chalk. I basted them up and tried them on. Very nice! Most of the SA's are 1 inch.

They fit me nicely and are not too baggy in the legs. They hang like RTW do, so I am getting the idea anyway. I am pleased with what I did yesterday.

Now I will take them apart again and follow the good advise given to Lorna and myself and learn to sew them up correctly and have the hems come out evenly.

Carol

Edited: I did make notes on the pattern pieces. I put "for sweatpants,use the Large size" and "for knit pants, use the medium". Now, I am not sure about the crotch length difference of that inch, but I will figure it out and put that info in there as well.
-- Edited on 5/20/06 1:10 PM --

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