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Date: 7/25/06 3:09 PM

I was gonna make the trousers in the Burda WOF 11/05 plus section, but the fabric requirements suggest stretch fabrics. Most of my gabardine & other trouser-ish fabrics don't have any stretch. I'm looking through my Ottobre Woman's mag and I really like the pants in this issue (good basic trouser). Anyone made up Ottobre & like the fit as much as Burda? I'm not in the mood to fiddle forever & still get a crappy fit. (I've also searched through 8 Burda WOF's and every single one of em I looked at required stretch!)

I was hoping maybe the great Burda crotch curve was a Euro thing and conveyed itself to the Ottobre Woman patterns too? (in which case, I've got a year of back issues I can search for other pants too, in the single patterns for women!)

Thanks a bunch!

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Date: 7/25/06 3:46 PM

Belinda (Sew4Fun here) has done a pair of OD capris with success, but she did modify them a bit against her TNT pants sloper. And she's not a plus.

If all you have is Burdas for stretch, go up a size & cut bigger seam allowances at the waist/hip.

ETA: But yes, OD patterns are European drafts, and should fit similar to Burda.




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Date: 7/25/06 8:15 PM

I have made pants from the Mix & Fix group in the Women's OD magazine as well as Burda 05/2006 style 112A. Right now, I wear a 14 petite in RTW.

Make a muslin first. I ended up going down two sizes on the OD pants. They fit well, but the pockets sag toward the side seams. If I make them again, I will omit the pockets or draft them to span across the front and attach at both the side seam and front seam.

I like both styles and like the yoke-style waistbands. By the way, use some heavyduty interfacing to keep the waistbands in shape.

I also made the box-pleated skirt from OD and like the style and fit very much and have made three knit tops that fit well. They are not as form-fitting as the model's tops.

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Date: 7/25/06 8:42 PM

Thanks Debbie!

kfriend, good insight! I'll try to make myself do a muslin, LOL. I have a tendency to cut things out a size too big, so I'll be in trouble if they run big! I love the pant pattern in the OD, and the waistband. That's exactly the pant I wanted. Thanks again!!

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Date: 7/26/06 7:30 AM

Angie, as Debbie mentioned I've made the Ottobre pants and wrote a review here.

I will mention the legs are extremely wide so beware of this before you start. I didn't like the wide leg style so I narrowed the legs significantly.

As for fit compared to Burda, Ottobre draft a 'European pant' for want of a better word, so if you like Burda you will like Ottobre. I love the fit of Burda, but I like Ottobre more. Their back crotch curve is lower and the CB seam is straighter, so good for a flat buttocks.

ETA: I found Ottobre to be true to size. That is I chose the size by my hip m'ment and they fit. I also had to do less fit alterations than any other commercial pant pattern I have ever made.

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Date: 7/26/06 12:00 PM

Belinda,

SO good to know. I am also flat -butted. I'm off to read your review. Thanks.

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Date: 7/26/06 2:54 PM

Terry, you crack me up. I'm definitely NOT 'flat-butted' hahaha

Thanks Belinda for the point to the review! I'm going to give them a whirl I think. I'll do a review if they work out (and maybe if they dont, LOL.)

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Date: 7/26/06 11:37 PM

I just finished the crop- cuffed pants from OW. I have not made pants for me in years. These fit me so nicely. I agree with Belinda, wide legs but you can tell that from the picture. I just cut a size smaller through the legs and that helped. I did find them very true to size also. The fabric I used was a linen/lycra blend, perfect for these pants. Personally, I would use a stretch blend again.

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Date: 7/27/06 8:29 AM

Quote: Sew4Fun
I will mention the legs are extremely wide so beware of this before you start. I didn't like the wide leg style so I narrowed the legs significantly.

Belinda, I really appreciate your expertise especially in pant area!!
With your advice regarding 'body space' I managed to perfect my pant sloper. The legs of my sloper are too wide. Trying to narrow the legs (1.5 cm off each seam at knee level (blending with the rest of the pattern) distorts the good fit I achieved.
I remember Thread magazine mentioned that narrowing legs involves the alterations in the upper part of pants as well. What technigue do you use ?
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Date: 7/28/06 11:24 AM

Ottobre pants muslin was just OK. It fit better than the Burda WOF 3/06 I made a few weeks ago (which were complete wadders) I'd post a review of the 3/06 pants but I was so disgusted with them I didn't take a picture and I tossed them. The directions (as per WOF usual) STANK. The little vertical darts in front gave me fits and I finally gave up & just folded the pant front until they looked right & sewed em up. They were basically too tight all over, but too big in the waist. Part of that was my own fault for not using a stretch denim & just cutting a bit bigger (but I couldn't find any stretch denim!) Maybe the fit wouldn't have been so lousy otherwise.

The Ottobre's fit pretty good through the crotch & hip area, a little tight through the tummy but huge through the legs (as mentioned). Maybe too short through the crotch (which could be the tight tummy issue) and aside from the hugeness of the leg in general, I think they were a bit too tight through the upper thigh.

Gonna lengthen the front/back crotch point a tad & add a bit through the front tummy. And narrow those HUGE legs. Wow, are those big.

Thanks for all the tips guys!

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