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Evolve - Problem machine or am I the problem??!!!??
katybee

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Date: 2/4/07 4:05 PM

Honestly, I'm at the end of the line with the Evolve, and I just wanted a final opinion before I go ahead and order a coverstitch machine. I've heard people complain about what a pain it is to switch back and forth between coverstitch, but seriously, it takes me an average of 10-25 minutes . Everytime I switch, the stitch is always messed up. There's no consistency, sometimes it's perfect on the first try, other times I have to thread and re-thread 12 times for it to work. I've been to the dealer about 5 times, who assures me there's nothing wrong with the machine, it must be me. They're re-instructed me on how to thread it and watched me do it, even showing me to "floss" the thread back and forth. I've tried using the 90/14 needles instead, NOTHING works. I don't have much time to sew, so it annoys me to have to spend half the time threading this thing. Is it just me or the machine or does everyone have this problem with the Evlove? Comments please, before I fork over another $1000 to the Babylock dealer.....

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Date: 2/4/07 6:49 PM

I may have had a similar problem to yours. In my case, I was confused by the threading guide. (I'm not at home now, so may not be able to explain properly, but...) At the right of the machine, there is a little hole where the thread goes through, and then gets wrapped(?) in the dial before continuing down to the looper. I was either wrapping it in the wrong way, or not wrapping it at all, and was very frustrated by the inconsistency of the stitch. My son watched me thread and noticed the error. The problem was that (for me, at least!), in the drawing, it just did not look like it was supposed to wrap around that way! I could look at that pic until the end of time and not see the thread wrapping around the dial. Once I started threading it correctly, I got a good stitch every time. I hope your problem is a simple one, like mine was, and I hope my explanation makes sense. Good luck. Hope you can get it to work.

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Date: 2/4/07 6:59 PM

P.S. I also remember being told to put a 90/14 needle in the left needle holder and an 80/14 in the right. Apparently, this also affects the stitch quality.

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Date: 2/5/07 1:15 PM

I've had the Wave Evolve for a year and never had a problem with the coverstitch. I find threading the looper thread through the disk a bit counterintuitive and always think I get it wrong, but I don't. The stitch comes out fine all the time.
However, I also have the designated coverstitch machine and find that the quality of its coverstitch is definitely superior to that of the Evolve. Not that I want to encourage you to drop a grand at your dealer's.

Claudia

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Date: 2/5/07 2:53 PM

Katy,
There must be some reason that it is occasionally right the first time. It could be that a stand-alone coverstitch will be the right answer for you, but I think its worth trying to figure out what the issue is. When the dealer watched you do it was it right the first time? Is the stitch messed up when you switch back to overlock or is it just the coverstitch?

When I got my Elna, I got it right the first few times with beginner's luck and then started making mistakes with the coverstitch. I used the left looper rather than the right looper or I used the wrong thread guide. I finally have it figured out. Good thing because I have no place to put another machine.

I totally understand your frustration. I have at most two hours to sew at a time and there just isn't time for futzing with machines! I wonder if a USED Janome coverstitch would be a good way to go if you have space for another machine? Could be much cheaper than another Babylock.

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Date: 2/5/07 3:32 PM

I also have an Evolve and, after three years of changing back and forth, I went out and bought a Janome CP1000, which I LOVE. It's a stand alone coverstitch machine, and I think it is easier to thread than the Evolve.

I could get a pretty good stitch from the Evolve but I hated changing those needles with the tiny screws, and it never seemed very solid to me. And fairly often the thread would tangle, or break, or something: just a hassle. The Janome, on the other hand, is so solid and dependable. It just plows right along, never giving me any trouble at all. And threading the looper couldn't be simpler. You don't need jet air at all for a coverstitch.

So if you have the room and money, treat yourself. With the Evolve for regular serging (really a lovely, solid machine) and the Janome for the coverstitch, I'm in sewing heaven.

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Date: 2/5/07 5:18 PM

Katy - Another member of the Evolve club here. I really love the evolve for overlocking, but I just bought a Janome 1000CS machine because of the inconvenience of re-threading the Evolve. It's a great solution. I agree that the Evolve's coverstitch threading is not obvious--finally I figured it out from the video. But the stand-alone CS machine gives a better stitch and saves the time needed for re-threading--plus it's very easy to use for 2-thread, 3-thread, and chainstitch. It's not that expensive, either.

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Date: 2/6/07 6:02 PM

Thanks everyone - I tried wrapping it around the cover/chain tension (even though the dealer instructed me not to wrap it), and it worked after letting it run for a little bit. And, no, it did not work the first time threading even when the dealer did it herself (hence, her showing me the technique of "flossing" the thread back and forth in the tensions). I think I'll spend my upcoming birthday money on a coverstitch - too much hassle!

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Date: 2/8/07 7:50 AM

My dealer instructed me to use the needles specifically for the Evolve serger (forget the number it is at home). That regular sewing needles do NOT work well for the cover stitch.

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Date: 2/8/07 5:08 PM

EL x 705 needles are usually recommended for Cover Stitch on most machines.

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