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Al Johnson
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Date: 5/2/07 1:02 AM

Just got a new to me White rotary model 77, with original owner's manual, accessories and presser feet, and portable case. $25. Pretty good condition, but well used and some paint chips. It would appear to be an aluminum casting, can anyone confirm that? If no one knows for sure, I will file a mark in an inconspicuous spot underneath to find out. Doing a cleaning and lubricating now. I'll report back in this thread when I find out how it runs afterward.

Any opinions from folks who know about this vintage machine?

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Date: 5/2/07 1:33 AM

I have heard the vintage Whites are highly respected. There's a vintage Whites collectors group over at Yahoo. Bet they could give you lots of great info.



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Date: 5/2/07 5:54 AM

White FR Yahoo Group

I haven't been attracted to the friction drive on those machines, so I always pass them up. Probably my loss. Anyhow, I just am not that familiar with them so I can't reaaly help except to provide the above link

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Date: 5/3/07 11:08 PM

Thanks for your replies. I've got it up and running now, and it seems to work well. It runs smoothly and quietly, with little vibration. A little more testing and adjusting tension, to make sure it works on things it was designed for, and I'll be ready to try it out on the heavy stuff.

Jennyg, I hear you about the friction drive, but after buffing the old hardened drive wheel with a wire wheel to kill the glaze and rough it up a bit, plus wiping down the handwheel and the drive wheel with automotive brake cleaner to get any grease or residue off them, it seems to have plenty of power for normal thread and cotton fabric. I'll let you know how it works out with heavy thread and canvas. I'm going to look for a new drive wheel with softer rubber for better traction.

Al

PS: The casting is definitely some kind of aluminum or other light alloy.
-- Edited on 5/3/07 11:10 PM --

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Date: 5/4/07 8:17 PM

"..after buffing the old hardened drive wheel with a wire wheel to kill the glaze and rough it up a bit...I'm going to look for a new drive wheel with softer rubber for better traction."

Al,

You're right on both counts, and you should be able to replace the drive pulley. However, in the mean time, try loosening the set screw and move the pulley a bit to one side. It doesn't need to be centered on the wheel to work well. With the friction drives, a wise operator will keep something like an old pencil handy, and when you're done for the day, stick it between the motor and the machine to lift the pulley off of the wheel.

Bill Holman

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Date: 5/5/07 1:15 AM

Thanks for the tips, Bill. Now I find that the mechanism that releases the thread tensioner when the pressure foot is raised does not usually reapply the tension when the foot is lowered again. You have to "fiddle" with the tension knob to get it to apply tension, which it does with an audible snap. Bet I'll get better results if I can get tension on my upper thread!

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Date: 5/10/07 0:38 AM

Last report on my White. The casting is magnesium, per teh Internet. The MG in the serial number tends to confirm this. According to the White customer service, it was made in 1948, plus or minus six (!) years.

Found the adjustment for the tension release mechanism, and it was way misadjusted, so that's fixed.

Purchased a new friction drive wheel, and had to drill out the hole to fit the motor shaft, but it works MUCH better than the old hardened one.

Got everything running well for ordinary fabric weight and thread size, then started trying to get my favorite size E bonded nylon thread and canvas or parachute pack cloth working. That did not take very long, and it is absolutely powering through 5 layers of extremely heavy cotton canvas, using a number 18 needle. JennyG, don't worry about the friction drive; it works just fine! This thing might be almost as good as Grandma's Singer 66 treadle for heavy fabrics and threads. It does not make as pretty a stitch, however. But there is lot's to be said for the convenience of electric powered operation. The limitation I'm running into now is that the fabric layers are becoming so thick, as I try to find out how far the machine will go, that the fabric is lifting the pressure foot so high that it is starting to release my upper thread tension. So I readjusted that for the maximum travel upward of the pressure foot before the tension is released, and now I'm thinking of possible ways to make the foot go higher when the lever is raised. There must be a way.

All in all, this old beast is another fabulous vintage thrift shop/ yard sale/ Craigslist find, and with $30 in it, I'm a happy camper!

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Date: 5/10/07 6:38 AM

Congrats! I'm glad to hear ou've got her up and running again! Mabe with a few more adjustments some where, you can get the stitch quality to improve? I have faith in you!

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