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Saggy bottom Clown butt adjustment?
kerina Beginner ON CANADA Member since 1/1/03 Posts: 9	Like this post Date: 11/28/03 10:37 AM Hi, I came on as a beginner last winter and had a great time sewing for several months until I went on a Florida vacation.  When I came back, for some reason, I just couldn't start again, no matter how much I really wanted to.  Anyhow, two weeks ago I finally cut another pattern and I'm back into it full swing.  But I've run into a problem.  I've been trying to make close fitting pants and the first two pairs seem to fit nicely everywhere except in the back upper thighs.  Here are two pictures.  The first is Vogue 7301 and the second is Burda 8606.  I've gone through the message boards here and have found several references to a clown butt adjustment. It looks like a very simple adjustment, Just slash and overlap.  My only question is whether or not the problem that I am having is "clown butt".  Since I was aware my first pants were likely to be losers both were muslins made out of cheap fabric, so no loss there.  However, before I try this again I'd like to know how to fit my bottom  a little better.  Thanks! Kerina
Gigi Louis Advanced Member since 4/4/02 Posts: 7876	Like this post Date: 11/30/03 9:34 AM Kerina, there are a couple of other things that I see as well:  drag lines to the hip - I just want to reach in and yank them down at the side seam (it looks like you need to add to the top of the waist at the side seam; are your calves hyperextended?  Your pants seem to be getting hung up there.  If you do, it's an unavoidable problem in narrow-legged pants. From the photos it appears that your pants are just not coming up properly in the back, probably due to a low derriere.  Imagine a lower curve pushing down on the pant crotch.  Try scooping out the back crotch curve a little until you can pull them up properly - they should hang from the fullest part of the derriere.  You may then have to remove some fabric from the back waist.  If, once you get that done, you still have too much fabric under the derriere , you can take in the back inseam to remove some of that.  Additionally, next time I would take a vertical tuck the entire length of the back piece.  This will remove width so you may have to add some extra at the side seam from the hip up.  That will take care of the excess width in the leg though. The clown butt adjustment is actually a very good one - by shortening the back inseam you are essentially pulling that fabric in under the derriere.  I would certain give it a try.  Only by experimenting will you be able to see which of these alterations give you the type of fit you are looking for.
kerina Beginner ON CANADA Member since 1/1/03 Posts: 9	Like this post Date: 12/1/03 7:27 AM Thank you very much for your reply Gigi. I can't wait to try some of your suggestions.  It's very helpful to be able to show an expert picures of your problem areas like this.  This forum is an amazing resource, and you are so kind to take time out to help frustrated beginners.  Thanks again!

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