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Date: 5/28/07 11:52 AM

I just wanted to follow-up with my sewing machine quest. I went to the Bernina (also Viking/Pfaff) dealer on Saturday. They had one brand new Bernina 165E in the back. I tested it out and used various threads and fabrics- perfect straight stitch. I only had to tweak the tension (between a 3 and 5) with a few specialty threads. After a round of serious negotiations, I bought it for $1200, which I thought was a good deal for a brand new Bernina. I also got a walking foot and plan to get presser foot #10 (edge-stitch) and quilting foot #57. I'm also considering a straight stitch plate. It came with CPS version 4.0 to add more stitches. They also threw in a box of Bernina bobbins.

I decided I wanted a new serger as well so I headed over to the Janome dealer. I bought there last Janome 744D- which is the same as the 643D, except the 744D has the free-arm. They sold it for $399, which included taxes. Both machines are in the dining room and still in their boxes. I want to buy a cloth guide and the blind hem foot for it.

Although I'll have the embroidery feature with the Bernina, I'm still wanting a stand alone embroidery machine but will have to save my pennies this summer.

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Date: 5/28/07 3:12 PM

Wow, you're set up for some serious sewing. Have fun and review your projects here.

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Date: 5/31/07 1:52 AM

That's a very good deal for the Bernina 165. Did that price also include the embroidery unit too? If not, that's still a great deal. I have the Bernina 165 with the embroidery unit and I love it.

It has a great stitch and I don't think I'll ever outgrow it. Don't let the serial port on the side of the machine scare you. I have a computer with USB only and use a serial to USB adapter with no issue whatsoever.

If you have technical questions regarding the connectivity between USB and the serial port, please let me know.

Matt
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Date: 5/31/07 6:48 AM

I've had a 165E for almost 5 years and love it. You really got a good deal on it.

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Date: 6/1/07 2:56 PM

Yes, it came with the embroidery unit. I was able to use the USB-Serial adapter and connect to my laptop. I'm having fun with the optional stitches on the CPS software. The additional feet are expensive but they are so made well that I believe they are worth the investment. I have a baby quilt cut and ready to piece this weekend. I need to put this machine to work!

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Date: 10/22/07 9:03 PM

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After a round of serious negotiations, I bought it for $1200, which I thought was a good deal for a brand new Bernina.

Wow. My local dealer has a used one and they are asking $1800!! Of course, I'm assuming that's a padded price in case someone comes along and is willing to pay without negotiations. Does anyone have an idea what a fair price is for a used one? I will get lots of free support and lessons with the purchase so I'm not expecting rock bottom prices. But I would like to pay an amount that is fair to both of us. After seeing that price for that new machine, I'm wondering what a used one should sell for.

Anyone?
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Date: 10/22/07 9:39 PM

My Pfaff dealer let me look at her blue book (I traded my "old" Pfaff, kept the Bernina) a couple of weeks ago - it listed the 165e at $800, but I would keep it before I'd sell/trade it that cheap. Seems like they have been going for about $1200 - $1500 on eBay. I paid $1600 a couple of years ago and it was a 3 month trade up machine and they gave me some free stuff - so I think $1800 is a little high, is the dealer offering a warranty? Good luck with your negotiations!!

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Date: 10/22/07 10:09 PM

I'll double check the warranty issue. My current machine is an older Janome that I bought from her and I haven't had any trouble but I feel certain she would take care of me if something went wrong.

I'm so glad you told me about taking a peek at the blue book value. That's exactly what I needed to know. I think $1200 is fair price and now I won't feel guilty for making that offer. I like this dealer very much and I do want her to make some money off of it, but I also want a fair deal too. I haven't gone in for a test drive yet but if I like it (which I'm sure I will) and if she'll take that amount, then I may just go for it.

Have you used the embroidery feature much? If so, were you happy with it? One of my fears about getting an older machine is being limited by software options.

Stephanie

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Date: 10/23/07 7:41 AM

I do have the 165e embroidery unit - I don't use it too much but it has come in handy around the holidays. It is pretty easy to use - see if the dealer will toss in the Artlink & CPS software so you can just hook the sewing machine up to the computer to get your designs - plus Artlink is handy to set up lettering and convert formats. I don't think the software is out of date - but I'm not an embroidery guru - you do need a serial cable - which I had to order online for about $10. The only bad thing about the 165e embroidery is it's very slow - not a huge problem for me since I don't use it that much (sewing speed is normal). I had a Brother pc6500 as my emb machine prior to the Bernina and it was much faster at embroidery. I use the Bernina mainly for free motion quilting and thread painting on my art quilts.

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Date: 10/23/07 9:05 AM

Ok, all of that sounds good. Slow embroidery wouldn't bother me. I plan to keep my Janome so that won't stop me from sewing! Thanks again for all the info.

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